I have run afoul of the law!

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  1. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    Well no one wants to deal with a middle of nowhere small town cop, but I've lived in cities most of my life and that's where I have had problems with the police.
  2. oldfella1962

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    It sucks TEX ran into cops that weren't military friendly. Everyone knows we have a deal...cops, military, and firemen are supposed to cut each other breaks because we serve society and so forth. It's like an unwritten law. But then he was a young cop, that could explain it I guess.
  3. Uncle Albert

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    More sense than most people who do that kind of "accessorizing" display.

    Pot holes and curbs are all it takes to fuck up a wheel when it's got no tire sidewall protecting it.

    Of course, that assumes you actually drive the fucking thing, rather than sitting in it to listen to the radio while you wait for the bus.
  4. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    I think it was the name drop that got his partner to step in and get me my ID back. If I had actually called that guy he would have got my ID back but made an example of me next time we saw each other.
  5. Uncle Albert

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    One big fucking correction: The military serves politicians.

    Carry on.
  6. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    Who elects politicians?
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    Dude, I know where every pothole in Jersey City is. But you are right. Its just for styling. I don't recommend them but I got them with the car. Shit, I park a foot away from the curb. I ain't scratchin' my shit up.

    And ya gotta really nail a pothole to screw up the rim. I pretty much keep an ey out for such things. Remember, I don;t deal with dirt roads or really shitty roads.
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  8. Ash

    Ash how 'bout a kiss?

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    So do the cops, at least around here. The CSPD is basically a tax collecting organization for the city.
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  9. JUSTLEE

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    The wealthy.
  10. Tex

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    Poor people can't vote?
  11. BearTM

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    Given Tex's ability to get into a fight in a Wendy's drive through, the reason he has problems with the cops he encounters is pretty clear.
  12. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    I don't have lots of problems with the cops, I just avoid them. Please though, do elaborate.
  13. Lt. Mewa

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    Now I remember that story and you are way off base, pal. :garamet:
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    They can but it's completely useless when the Administration won't listen to them and listen to big money interests that are the driving focus.
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    Well the reason Nick and Bear don't have problems with cops is that they've been living their whole lives in front of computer screens. Even bad cops are unlikely to beat down your door to hassle you about pirating music or stealing software.

    I on the other hand go out and have fun, I attend social events, and I don't let people shove me around if there is something I can do about it.
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  16. BearTM

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    I go out plenty. Just don't feel the need to be a prick to people when I do, and so don't wind up in conflicts. Tisn't a hard skill to master.
  17. Tex

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    Ah, so you're just a prick when you're here on the board? I thought that was just me. ;)

    But if you really think I'm that crazy when I go out you could just ask Ash, Flow, Mrs Flow, Storm, or Shooter what they think. I never look for trouble, I just don't let people push me around when I have the choice, even if they are in uniform. (I do let cops act like dicks more than some civilian but that's because I always try and let the situation resolve itself when possible)
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  18. Linda R.

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    :shrug: When I was younger, I got out and had plenty of fun. Got stopped once giving seven people a lift home in a Beetle... (thank whatever I never drink and drive!) Got stopped because my rear lights had gone. But I managed to talk my way out of it... by not being an arse.
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    Who dictates those options to the voters? :garamet:
  20. Tex

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    Do you people really think when a cop pulls me over I start the conversation by saying "what the fuck do you want?"

    No. I am polite, I am nice, I try and military my way out of it, but if the cop is gonna be a total dick then I'm at the very least going to stop being polite. I'm not running drugs or drinking or harboring fugitives, so what is the worst that can happen as long as I comply with whatever the cop is asking? Not much, and when the cops leaves I don't have to feel like I just bent over and took it either.

    The other rule I have with cops is that I don't call them "sir" unless they are calling me "sir." And I don't call anyone younger than me "sir" at all.
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    Almost the same logic that I use. I'm clean, I didn't do anything...but in addition, that cop is just a mug with a job. Just like me. I almost want to lol if they try any intimidation remarks.
  22. Amaris

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    I've had good experiences with police officers.

    Back in 2001, I was pulled over while driving on the Interstate. I was doing 83 in a 65, and it was the first time I had ever been pulled over. The State Trooper gets out of his car and walks over to my passenger side window. He asks for my license, registration and proof of insurance. I give him all of these things and he tells me to wait while he checks them. After about 10 minutes, he comes back and gives me my papers and asks me, "Did you know you were going 83 in a 65 speed zone?" I replied that I did not know it (I didn't), and that I was trying to get home before my best friend left for the military. The officer replied, "Don't you think your friend would appreciate that you arrived to your home safely? Do you think he would understand if you were killed trying to see him before he left?" I said, "No Sir, I don't think he would like me getting killed just to get home sooner to see him leave."

    He handed me a citation and said, "I'm going to give you a ticket for speeding, but, since your driving record is clean and I think you've learned your lesson, that's all I'm going to do today. In Ohio, driving 83 in a 65 is fast enough to get your license suspended. So I am giving you a chance to prove to me you can be a responsible driver. Am I clear?" I said, "Yes, Sir, thank you Sir. I will drive safely from now on." He said, "See that you do. It's better to arrive late than not to arrive at all." He then told me to have a good day, and left. I've kept my word. Since then I have never behaved that way. My ticket ended up being $65, ironically enough. I am thankful that this particular State Trooper was a nice enough guy to give me another chance.


    Another good experience with a police officer happened when, a few years ago, I was house sitting for a friend. Well, that night, all the lights off in the house and chores taken care of, I was watching television, when the phone rang. I waited for the machine to pick it up and I swear it was right out of a horror movie. The message was, "I know you're not home, but I know a friend of yours is there, and he better come out and leave if he wants to stay out of our business. You hear me, boy? I know you're in there. If you want trouble, you'll get it. I have no problems doing what I have to do to get what I want."

    I called the police. They were there in 2 minutes, and they were searching around the house. They found a car up the road with a cell phone inside, along with a loaded rifle, but no person to be found. They called my friend who was in another state and he explained to them (and to me later) that his girlfriend had a stalker.

    The officer who arrived was very calm, relaxed and professional. In a few moments, he was able to do a sweep of the entire house, making sure no one was there. Him and his partner were very thorough, looking through bushes and in neighboring yards. They never found the stalker that night, although they did arrest someone the next day who fit the description from an eyewitness.

    So I've been very fortunate, and I still maintain that most police officers are good people. Now, our town has it's share of corrupt officers, a large share, unfortunately, but I don't paint every officer with that brush. Most of them are good, decent people.

    J.
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  23. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    That's the Catch-22. It's a statistically proven fact that cops that act like hardasses go home at the end of their shifts. Cops that act like Barney Fife do not. The trick is in knowing when to use both personalities and still go home at the end of their shift.

    *Tip* That's why most highway patrolmen act like they're god's gift to law enforcement. They have to. They have to be the intimidating assholes. Hell, everything about the Alabama State Trooper's uniform is designed to intimidate down to the exact way they have their hair cut, the way they wear their campaign hats, and even down to the issued mirror sunglasses. The reason being, they want you afraid of them because they literally have no help. They're out there, by themselves, and the closest backup may be over an hour away running code. So, they put a clamp on the situation and do what they have to do to keep the risk to themselves at a minimum.
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  24. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    So you avoid route 46 in Totowa? :D
  25. Tex

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    Also worthy of consideration:

    Unless your car came with those rims from the factory, your suspension and brakes were not designed to handle them. The springs and shocks were designed with a bit more cushy sidewall in mind, and your brakes with less rolling mass and possibly less diameter leverage. In short, they could make it ride poorly, handle worse, and have greater difficulty stopping itself.
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    Yeah, right. You might as well have bent over.

    I hate when cops talk that shit.'Do you think your friend would appreciate you dying on the road'. Who are you, my father. :dayton:

    How can you get your licsense get suspended on your first moving violation that is not even 20 miles over the limit?

    You people need to learn about getting speeding tickets. The amount of speed over the limit can always be reduced at court. Again, if radar was used you can request that they present the paperwork showing that it was in proper working order.

    I seen that play out in court many times and the cops don't always show up with the proper paperwork.

    You gotta fight or delay the case. No cop, no case. They usually make the first court date but dates assigned by the judge they often can't make.

    Ya gotta work it!! :walz:
  28. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Only crooked cop story I got is from the 70s or 80s. My folks were on the ambulance corps, so they got the story. One of our town cops was extorting a bank manager, who went to the chief for help. When the cop showed up at the bank to, essentially, rob it, the good cops were waiting for him. They went in with a solid show of force because they knew their guy might be nasty enough to shoot, and they took him down without incident. He had five handguns on him! :soma:
  29. Amaris

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    Why? I was in the wrong, and I knew it. Why try to weasel my way out of something that I did? If anything, I take responsibility for my actions. Yes, I did speed, significantly over the limit, and I was caught. Why lie about it? :shrug:

    I didn't mind the advice. I knew what he was going to say when he said it, but I appreciate that he seemed to care enough to say it.

    J.
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    I have driven all kinds of cars and what you mention I do not notice in this car. Man, I just drive.

    I've driven lots of screwed up cars also. So as long as it rolls foward and stops, I'm good.

    But the Acura Legend rides fine. It's butter, homes!