So what's the deal with this shit? First Canada, now the US. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hot-yo...beierle-had-prior-arrests-for-touching-women/ I mean, being as I've brushed up against Star Trek and Doctor Who fans, to say I've encountered some socially inept types along the way would be an understatement. But I look at the picture of this guy and I'm scratching my head as to why he apparently couldn't get a piece of arse. I've seen much uglier blokes (and not rich ones) with women. Or is it that he's got the arsehole because he couldn't keep one for being a bit of a dick? Or is it that social media now enables what would have been little pockets of individual hate to fester and influence others?
That's it exactly. They get indoctrinated in forums as teenagers. It's ironic that people call WF an echo-chamber because that is exactly what those forums are, the same thing posted over and over and any dissenting view shouted down or ignored. Regular kids who are having trouble relating to girls or feel they are behind their peers in that regard have it drilled into their heads that they are incels, they will never be happy because the normie world is rigged against them. This identity becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Once they have been twisted with hate and misogyny they become suseptible to further radicalization with racist or other extremist views.
yeah... toss in a bit of the predatory nice guy syndrome and there's a cycle of social failure that'll just keep sucking them deeper. For millennials, with their predilection for polyamory, it must be doubly frustrating because they're failing in a competition where everyone else seems to be getting multiple ribbons.
*Presses buzzer* Who are Jordon Peterson's core audience, Alex? (Doesn't get dumbrep from Dinner) Ahhhh, that's sweeet!
There's that, but the mentality that women owe men anything for basically existing is well ingrained in society. To use one example, shortly after I started posting here, I made a rant thread about some rando that took an uninvited seat in front of me at Carl's Jr to try and ask me out and how irritating it was. I got met with more than one post excusing the behavior about "he's just being nice" and even one accusing me of being gay I was 19 for christ's sake and looked 16. The guy was probably a pedo for all I knew. The other thing: look at how much of media supports guys getting the woman of their choosing with little to no effort on their part. Ross Geller, anyone? How many fat slob husbands do you see married to women in single digit clothing sizes that clearly married beneath them versus the number of even moderately overweight women married to a Chris Pine or Ryan Gosling type? Off the top of my head, I can only think of Sookie from Gilmore Girls and Elle's hairdresser from Legally Blonde. Amazing, the one show that actually shot this down was goddamn Voyager of all things where the Doc gives Seven some speech about being there for her and she's like "LOL no" and goes back to smoking Chakotay's peyote pipe if ya know what I mean But it's far more than just the internet shitposting. We've created a society where that can foster, the same as Islamic countries have enabled it's own style of sexism and radicalism. The incel movement is the same shit but people haven't taken it seriously until these guys go off killing someone (usually the girl that last told them no).
I think it is the hormones. I don't think I could ever explain why I would want to date or marry someone. Fucking can be fun, but when it is done you have to deal with people. The best I could ever say about wanting someone was I wanted a person who had their own room in some other area of the house and we got along as friends and might want to fuck every so often. I think incels want the fantasy the world sells everyone from the day you are born. Someday you will meet someone who will make your life worthwhile, give you sex, and you will be happy. It is a fucking fantasy. If you are so fucked you need someone else for happiness you need therapy not a date. When you are unhappy or depressed you look for something to get you out of it, and we are all told it is love. If you are in love, and unhappy, it is because you are in love with the wrong person. I will say decent friends are things that bring happiness, but they cannot make your life worthwhile. No one can make your life worthwhile. You have to find happiness in yourself if it is there. Other people can go away and do not owe their life to your happiness, but you will always be you. When these incels believe that other people are the key to their happiness it becomes a personal kick in the face that no one gives it to them. It is also a hell of a lot easier to blame others for withholding happiness than to find it in yourself sometimes. Especially when you are confused about life and dealing with a lot of sucky things. It is easy to blame others, and it may be others in some ways that are making you unhappy. However, incels should take heart. japan is making great strides in electronic robot love. There will not be a woman in the world that will be able to give you what you want like a programmed love doll. Not to mention she will probably be able to help you get that uber rare you have been camping forever.
Kids get participation trophies these days for virtually everything. Then what happens? No pussy participation trophy! Setting kids up for failure from an early age.
True, and I don't want to miss out on the wider social context that allows such a toxic mindset to flourish. Just showing how extremists of all kinds build up and exploit feelings of failure and frustration to draw people into their orbit.
"Incel" is a fake, imaginary strawman concept created by online libtards to smear conservative enemies. Libtards have created an entire fantasy universe via online groupthink where they've convinced themselves that America has been overrun by "white supremacists," "nazis," and now "incels." The irony is that it's the libtards, rather than imaginary "incels," who no longer know how to relate to the real world and those who live in it.
Is it supposed to be a pejorative? 'Cause, I mean, the poor schmucks can't even get laid for whatever reason, why insult them about it?
Apart from incels being a self defined group who choose that label for themselves, sure..... Tell us all again how successful you are at life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel Ironically the first person to self define as an incel was female, but it by and large boils down not just to "men who can't get laid", but men who are angry that getting laid isn't put on a plate for them and blame women. Quite a lot of them become serial killers, jolly nice lot all around. I'm waiting for the "dumb" rep from @The Flashlight, who isn't actually interested in things being factually correct and is clearly recognising his spriritual home in that forum I linked.
Ah, incels. I wonder if their social ineptitude is a byproduct of anime and the internet, or they have always existed and just never made much noise until Eliot Rodger gave them a role model.
I think they've always existed, the world's never been short of inadequate young men who fail to interact effectively with women and are frustrated about it. What's different now is the way the internet and political conditions combine to allow them a collective voice with both a platform and a convenient set of shared interests with the existing mainstream.
Somebody came up with a catchy label for a class of people that have always existed, but which pose no threat to anyone. The term "incel" has become popular in relation to the #metoo movement, as activists have seized upon it as a way of describing what they think is "toxic masculinity." Diacanu and Ten Lubak are our resident "incels," are they going to become serial killers?
At which point did I say I was worried about an "incel invasion"? I'm also not concerned about an "invasion" of Mexican women and children but apparently they need an army to chase them off
I'm pretty sure @Ten Lubak isn't an incel, don't know @Diacanu well enough to act as a character witness (sorry dude). That "somebody" was referring to herself, it's a name other people have adopted to refer to themselves. You seem to be struggling with that idea.
I couldn't care less if an insignificant handful of social misfits labels themselves "incels" on their Facebook pages. It's your insistence that their existence is symptomatic of a larger "toxic masculinity" problem that is ludicrous. And Ten Lubak, by his own admission, hasn't felt the touch of a woman in over 20 years, not since his "accident."
Technically, I was one until I was 19. Seeing most of my teenage schoolmates scoring left and right (it was the 70s) was pretty frustrating, but I didn't think becoming a serial killer was the right solution.
It goes beyond just being a virgin. Libtards like to conflate it with a host of other things, like being a conservative, supporting 2nd amendment rights, etc. It's a pejorative cut from the same cloth as libtards insulting anyone who owns a gun as having a small dick.
Well, that's good to know...sadly though both as a movement and as a social trend they do produce a disproportionate number of serial killers and sex offenders (unlike the right's favourite target, transpeople - who actually don't). There are many reasons why young men who are socially isolated and disenfranchised by their peers would represent a higher risk but we don't profile on the basis of that, at least not yet thankfully. Where the movement does represent a higher risk than previously is in the way these "support groups" validate those thought processes and provide a set of distorted social norms which legitimise sexual violence. Those who are removed from healthy relationships are more prone to violence, especially sexual violence, it's one of the reasons I advocate professionally for conjugal visits in jails (one area the US has us beat where it comes to dealing with offenders), but creating environments which reinforce the idea of externalising that in terms of blaming others is a genuine and practical danger.
I've been unlucky in love, but it never made me a misogynist. I've been robbed by black kids, and it never made me a racist. And I don't think invisible flying penises are constantly trying to crawl down my throat in my sleep, so I'm not a homophobe. So....I've had bad luck in other things, but not in the genetics of my brain, cuz I'm not a fucking mental weakling like bigots are. And incels are just another flavor of bigot pretzeling their hatred into grievance politics. Also, what everyone else has said about Fleshlight being a troll not worth answering.
