Waiting to see the pricing plans over here, think I'll be moving from O2 though - just been in Spain and they couldn't apply a bolt-on for cheaper internet access there, so I racked up close to £200 in data roaming fees. The cost isn't really the issue, but what really fucked me off is O2, owned by Telefonica - a Spanish company - was unable to do what the girlfs provider, T-Mobile, owned by Deutsche Telekom, a German company, could. When a German telecoms company can do something in Spain that a Spanish telecoms couldn't, well, that there is in an indicator of a retarded business who can wave goodbye to my lucre.
To be precise, the facetime libraries will be open source. Presumably it'll still be up to app writers to make the interface, PIP, camera-switching support, etc.
After the usual pre-order launch day insanity at Apple and AT&T and a ton of mechanical problems with numerous web store crashes and updates I've successfully ordered my new Black 32GB iPhone 4 to be delivered to my house on the morning of June 24th. I've been an Apple user since 1986 or so and have been through a ton of their product launches and I must say this one was the MOST difficult. The bottleneck occurred at the handshake between Apple.com and AT&T's websites during account verification where they check to see if you are eligible for the discount pricing. I must say reading through some other people's order horror stories at MacRumors.com was entertaining and helped break of the monotony of sending and resending the info to hanging servers. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=936983
It took me 12 hours to place my pre-order from Apple's website. (AT&T tricked me twice by taking me to a payment page, then dropping the server connection.) Apparently the trouble stemmed from a customer database upgrade AT&T did over the weekend (nice timing, jackasses) that caused security issues, which led AT&T to take it down. A poster on MacRumors figured out the trick, though: logging into your AT&T account, making a nominal change to your info then saving it forced the database to reload your account info, so when you did the pre-order from Apple.com it could find your account and proceed. Worked for me on the first try. I got so excited over finally getting through the process that I forgot to order a few accessories that I needed, so I had to make a separate order. That went OK though, since I didn't have to get AT&Ts permission for those.
I placed my first attempted order at Apple at 4:01 AM EST when the store went up, after about 5 hrs of attempts I was able to reserve a phone for store pickup at about 9am this morning, I then foolishly/bravely waded back in to the mess and was finally able to place the order on the phone with AT&T for home delivery on the 24th.
I see lots of people getting raped over data charges..... As phones become more and more like tiny TV's/Computers the amount of data going back and forth is going to sky rocket.
I'm thinking of getting the older iPhone for a $100 to $150 on ATT's site. I'm not worried about the data charge since the phone would be used mostly as a phone and a PDA. I wouldn't be surfing the internet except on Wi-Fi.
I'm seriously considering downgrading from my "unlimited data" plan for $30/month down to the $25/month 2GB plan for each of my wife and I. Neither myself not my wife have actually used more than 500MB in any given month. That can save me $10 per month, $120 per year. Why not?
Because you can nevergo back up to the unlimited plan. Data use will only increase over time, so who knows what you'll be using in a year. Just my $.02. I'm sticking with my unlimited plan.
I concur with this. One simple scenario that I will use quite frequently. We get multi-tasking with OS4. When I'm putzing around, I can now have Slacker on in the background, and continue to use the phone and all of it's features. I'll probably stream slacker quite frequently to my car's stereo via bluetooth. I do it now, but any time there's a phone call or I need to do something else with the phone, it has to go. That's a lot of bandwidth over the course of the month. Will it be 2GB+? I doubt it, but in this case, I'd rather be safe than sorry.
I wonder if the iPhone will get Swype. I just installed the beta version for my Droid, and holy hell is it amazing. I can type 100x faster now.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/ An interesting technical review of the new iPhone. Sounds good. I may have to buy one sometime soon...
Mine came yesterday. It looks like you only have to worry about the antennae issue if you're not using a case. So far I'm really liking it. It's a lot faster than my old 3G.
Then there is the proximity sensor problem, and the battery life problem, and the restoring from a 3G/3GS problem. At this point, I'm wishing AT&T had a great Droid phone. My 4G is still on order and I am not sure whether I'll cancel or not. Giving it a couple of more days to see if they come out with iOS4.01 and if it helps.
Droid phones absolutely suck. There is no comparison. I'm glad I've still got a 3GS right now but when the problems are worked out I'm sure the iPhone 4 will be a nice upgrade. I am also going to wait on a 64gb version.
Really? I have the original Droid, and I absolutely love it. Once 2.2 comes out I'll going to make love to it every hour.
holy Shit!! It looks like Apple's stock is set to grow!! http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ip...n-in-january-report-2010-06-29?dist=afterbell
^Maybe, I'll believe it when I see it. One thing lending some credence to this is AT&T's adoption of a high end Android device.
1.7 in 3 days is huge. If they come to Verizon they will probably duplicate that, or even do better. But I doubt Android is going to get set back that much. I think we're in for a long time of back and forth depending on who releases the best phone when.
I'll believe it when I see it. Last summer, "Wall Street experts" expected the iPhone to come to Verizon by Christmas. This spring, it was supposed to come to Verizon by mid-3rd quarter. But, with that said, I did real last year that Apple was holding off on extending the exclusivity agreement for another three years. They were pressuring AT&T to fix some major problems with their network. AT&T agreed by saying they'd spend x number of dollars over y number of years in infrastructure improvements. Also, while they're by no means insiders, I have talked to some mid-level Verizon corporate guys that insist that the internal party line is that Verizon will have no part of any phone they can not sell insurance for because breakages and returns make Verizon look bad even though they have no control over the individual phone maker's quality controls.
