Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

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  1. Crosis36

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    A) Russia made it illegal to protest the war.
    B) No one in Russia was barricading a University building.
    C) Russia is the instigator and perpetrator of the war where actual Russians are dying.

    There is literally no comparison between the two. You're just as bad as MTG comparing the protests to J6.

    Like I said elsewhere, you are incapable of nuance.
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  2. Ten Lubak

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    This isn’t some USA law enforcement gestapo shit dude, Colombia University completely lost control of the situation and asked the police for assistance, and nor was this a “violent crackdown” this was people being removed from a building they literally broke into and were occupying

    If Biden loses over this it’s because people will be looking at this fringe minority of students and how they dislike their message and their methods and associate them with the actual left. So these clowns have now made Donald trump getting elected again a definite possibility
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    No, it really is some gestapo shit. It was coordinated with other such action across the country, including in California where police stood by to allow a Zionist mob to attack protestors. They removed all journalists and legal observers before they went in, and there are reports of beatings, people being thrown down stairs and so forth.

    At least we know where everyone would have stood in the 1960s. Fucking lemmings.
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  4. Crosis36

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    No. These protestors THINK they're equivalent to the ones in the 1960s. Not even close.
    They're upset about financial ties the university has to Israel? So it's okay to trespass, smash windows, etc?
    Okay. Let's see them do that to McDonalds. Coca-Cola. Delta. Hell, let's see them storm the Capital!
    But they won't. Because this is all performative bullshit.
    If anyone's a lemming, it'd be you.

    PS: Zionist the way you're using it is a dog whistle.
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  5. Crosis36

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    By the way, for the lemmings amongst us:
    1960's sit-in protest:
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    2024 Columbia University protest:
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    RickDeckard:
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  6. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    You’ve completely lost the plot
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    This is some bullshit. And probably has nothing to do with your argument with RickDeckard. But, shortly after that first pic was taken, some of the most violent anti-protest actions in American history happened.

    US civil rights did intend to be bloodless and peaceful, but as always, those in power cannot have that happen. They will always make it violent and always blame it on those attempting to overthrow those in power.
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  8. Crosis36

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    Yes, when I see the guys in masks with hammers smashing shit up, I immediately think "My, what nonviolent protestors."
    Plus, compare the police response to those people to the one you were referencing from the 60's. Let's see how they differ.
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  9. Jenee

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    Well, when I see the guys in masks with hammers smashing shit up, I immediately think of those people sitting peacefully at a diner or on a bus or walking across a bridge and being attacked with bats and dogs and other horrific shit and i think I would definitely be wearing a mask an carrying a hammer.
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    We’ll see which ones end up being actually successful.
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    I really don’t care. If you’d actually read my post, you’d know I said my post had nothing to do with the rest of the thread. I was only pointing out that Crosis’ post was an invalid analogy.

    ANYONE who brings up pics of US civil rights peacefully doing anything have absolutely zero knowledge of the US civil rights fight.
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  12. Thoughts and Prayers

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    This sentence is nonsensical in terms of grammar, but...okay, yes, the establishment reaction to the civil rights protests was often very violent. But you do understand a lot of the protests themselves were peaceful, right?
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    It’s been proven that non-violent protests win out over violent ones in most cases.
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    Not relevant to my post.
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  15. Jenee

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    Yea? Which ones? Please be specific.
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  16. Steal Your Face

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    Rosa Parks, the sit ins, Martin Luther King. The ones that weren’t successful was the Columbia university protest in 1968 which got Nixon elected.
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  17. Jenee

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    So, you know nothing of history.

    Those are the protests to which I am referring. All of which ended in violence.
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  18. Steal Your Face

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    The protesters weren’t violent. Learn the difference.
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    I know the difference. I also know the topic. Do you?
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  20. Thoughts and Prayers

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    Wow.
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    The anti-genocide protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful. The establishment always portray such things as violent, they always smear them in harmful ways and reactionary dupes always fall for it. The standard playbook is being run through right now, with monotonous predictability.
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  22. Jenee

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    This is why I [try to] avoid serious topics here.

    Obviously, it is the best interests of media, trying to sell news, to present that news in such a way that most people will read it and establish an emotional attachment by embellishing things that would make people emotional - such as presenting it as violent.

    We all know this.

    Yet, I don’t know if FF is really as stupid as he presents himself, but anyone who thinks US civil rights protests were peaceful cannot possibly be arguing honestly.
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  23. Steal Your Face

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    The media is downplaying these protests in comparison to January 6th which some said was worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.
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  24. Thoughts and Prayers

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    Are they, though? Because they're currently the biggest national news story I'm seeing. And did the media say J6 was worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Who said that? What was the context? What's your IQ? Do you have trouble with big words?
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  25. Ten Lubak

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    Well this story is literally everywhere, 24/7, but if they're saying these fringe spoiled brat university protests are not as big a deal as J6 then they're 100% correct in that

    LOL, who said that and why would you take them seriously
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  26. We Are Borg

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    Depends on how you define "peaceful". In my town, pro-terrorist protests blocked major thoroughfares for days. I would argue that's not "peaceful" because they are, in fact, disturbing the peaceful movement of people.

    In Canada, the pro-terrorist protestors have a lot in common with the anti-vax trucker assholes, in that they are adversely impacting communities. In both cases, the government and law enforcement let these things fester far too long before doing something about it, at which point it became a lot more difficult (and in some cases violent) to break up versus if they had acted earlier.
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  27. Thoughts and Prayers

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    J6 wasn't worse than Pearl Harbor or 9/11. It was worse than Pearl Harbor AND 9/11. King Kong ain't got shit on January 6.
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    Every "disagree" or "dumb" rep from RickDickhard only makes me stronger. :)
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    An attempt to overthrow the legitimate government of the US is definitely much, much worse than the student protests. And, in terms of repercussions had it been successful, than any military or terrorist attack aimed at merely cowing or hampering the legitimate government, or the people it represents.

    Of course, FF is fully prepared to shit on democracy as long as it elects folk he hates.
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  30. Steal Your Face

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    Unfortunately I have to take that person seriously because they are one heartbeat away from being the president.
    https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-compare-9-11-january-6-1826340
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