It's Good News Friday! (CLIMATE CHANGE)

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by We Are Borg, Aug 6, 2021.

  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Pretending you were ever anything but an abusive DUI-ing drunkard, and trust fund baby.
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  2. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Is that so?
    Now this I agree with.
    The longer version is that from 1965-1979 there were a ton of scientific papers that predicted cooling. They greatly outweighed global warming papers.
    More at the link.
    https://angusmac.net/2018/11/19/the-1970s-global-cooling-consensus-was-not-a-myth/
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    A blog by an engineer to who dabbles in climate science.
    That wasn't even a good try.
  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You’re free to refute any of it.
  5. We Are Borg

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    Not sure what FF is trying to get at here. Even if the consensus among climatologists about which way the temperature is heading was indeed wrong in the 1970s, it doesn't take a scientist to see firsthand that there is something seriously fucked up with the climate and it's not getting better.

    Hell, I was in Nevada and California two months ago and I've never seen water levels that low.

    Buffalo, NY was hammered last week with one of the most brutal, coldest snowstorms it's seen in centuries and only a few days later it's patio weather.

    Climate change deniers like to use anecdotal evidence to prove their point. I say the anecdotal evidence actually proves them wrong.
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  6. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    So it's your position that everything is fine, mankind isn't fucking up the environment and we should just carry on as usual?
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  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Hey, but the oil industry knows the real score.
    They love and care about us all, and would never hurt us.
    Just like big tobacco, Monsanto, and Union Carbide.
    :yes:
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  8. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    A blog, linked by a liar who we know doesn't even read/watch the things he posts, that admits the evidence doesn't make the case it wants and so is looking for ways to selectively interpret it.

    All of this to try and show that scientists doing calculations with slide rules six decades ago didn't have the same ability to model the climate.

    This attempt to underpant gnomes your way to a case is almost impressive in its ineptitude.
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  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Nope, it's to show that for decades scientists have been making climate prediction that don't come true, but they use it to scare people and push propaganda as well as a political agenda and the media is complicit in it. It's alarmist.
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  10. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Nope, it's my position that we shouldn't fall for this alarmist rhetoric and propaganda that politicians want to use to control our lives and wreck the economy.
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  11. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    That's not at all related to the criteria your linked blog is using to try and massage the data into the conclusion it wants.
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  12. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    And that's why you fail, because most of your political and social views start with the assumption that there's a labcoated communist boogeyman standing in the corner.
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  13. Ten Lubak

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    So your default is to focus on the things that have been proven wrong, which are in the minority, instead of the overwhelming amount of data that says things are not great and we are having a negative affect on the environment

    That's quite a childish way to look at it
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I don't think it's childish at all to be weary of politicians pushing agendas, spreading propaganda, wreck the economy and trying to control our lives.
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  15. Ten Lubak

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    No, it's childish to focus on that which is happening but in a very tiny degree, versus the monumental amount of evidence out there that says we need to not fuck up our environment

    You're taking the fringe route and ignoring the mainstream part of what's actually happening
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  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Paranoia isn't skepticism.
    Skepticism accepts evidence.
    Paranoia only accepts the story it wants to be true.
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    I think FF is down with ODD (Yeah you know me) :yes:
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    Unless that evidence is contrary to the accepted narrative on social media.
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  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, there's no climate deniers on Twitter, or Facebook, or Reddit, or whatever skinhead biker-bar hellhole you go to.
    It's all a uni-mind.
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  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Remember, all climatologists are in on it, so only non-climatologist amateurs can be trusted!
    That's how getting at the truth works!
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    Climatologists that get grants from universities and want to keep their jobs are going to manipulate data and produce the results their masters want.
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  22. Ten Lubak

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    Subway Dayton
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Scientists get famous by making waves.
    Look at Darwin, for fuck's sake.
    Or Einstein.
    Or the discoverer of string theory.
    If someone had a legitimate testable theory that knocked down global warming, and worked with the evidence, he'd go for it, and you'd hear about it on a bigger venue than a fucking blog.
    Just like real evidence of aliens will be on the news, not a fucking Discovery channel show.
    Science doesn't work like cubicle jockeys sucking up to management for the fancy corner office.
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  24. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Yes, the big rich mean researchers are picking on the poor underresourced fossil fuel industries.

    Here's the thing about the truth regarding climate change: it sucks, and most of the scientists involved would love to be able to find out that we actually aren't screwing things up.

    If someone could prove that coal isn't actually damaging and we can use it as much as we want that would be fucking amazing. However reality isn't decided by what is most convenient for us.
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  25. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Let's put aside the cherry picked articles from the fucking 1960s, and ignore your conspiracy theories about scientists motivations, and look at basic facts:

    Do you dispute any of the following?

    1. Human activity is taking sequestered carbon (wood, coal, oil, gas) and emitting it into the atmosphere.
    2. These emissions have contributed to raising atmospheric CO2 levels to levels not seen for several million years.
    3. Increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere are scientifically demonstrated to have an insulation effect, resulting in the Earth retaining more of the sun's energy than it would have otherwise.
    If you don't dispute any of those then congratulations, you agree with the scientific consensus. If you do disagree with any of them then I would love to see your evidence.
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  26. Bailey

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