Jenna, Ted and now LARD ASS Chad Will Now Be Charged More Per Flight

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The uni-bomber and an ex-porn star? That's a wacky sitcom couple waiting to happen!

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Isn't the point that they take up more room and so do you and that is the issue?

An airline certainly shouldn't be pricing tickets based on the health status of the passengers.

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One of things I started doing ~ 6 months ago was using my Vitamix blender to make smoothies. You can get all sorts of fruits and veggies in there and make them fit into one pint glass for breakfast.

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This isn't about health, it's about cost. There is a per pound incremental cost. I would also be charged more because I'm tall and muscular. But I'm not crying about how I'd be lumped with the fatties.

However, while it makes economic sense, I'm jot sure the policy is a good idea. It would be an operational nightmare, and look at all the bitching and moaning generated by bag charges.

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I wonder if public perception would be any different the other way around: offer 'discounts' for passengers under 150lbs or something like that.

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I doubt it. People would gripe about the 98 pound weeklong getting a discount for no other reason than being a scrawny piece of shit.

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i know so many women who want to lose weight and they will go through all this ridiculous nonsense where they only eat such and such or they stop eating sweets or they only eat at certain times of the day....all in an effort to "trick" their body into losing weight. it's so dumb. i have been obese, overweight, healthy, and for a brief moment...a little too small and kinda weak. when i was at my most healthy, i worked up a sweat 4-5 times per week and ate whatever my body craved. it's amazing how just being active will affect your apetite. now that i'm in school and always being inactive & on the computer, i crave mcdonalds. but i remember running stairs and then smelling someone's fast food and it literally turned my stomach. i craved tuna (HA!) and fruit and whole grains. i also craved chocolate, but i wanted real chocolate and not the processed waxy donut type shit.

*sigh* i really need to start making time for workouts again.

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No, I think charging by weight is unacceptable. Charge them an extra seat if they are taking up an extra seat, but charging by weight is dumb.

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I don't roll over into the seat next to me, but my knees do nearly touch the seat in front of me. I take up one seat, just like most other passengers.

And I agree that ticket prices shouldn't be based on the health status of passengers, I don't think I was ever advocating that and I am in fact advocating the opposite of that.

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I'm not trying to make it about relative healthiness, I was pointing out to BearTM that there are different body types. I disagree with the charge-by-weight policy full stop, regardless if a person is too fat or too tall. As you said, it would be an operational nightmare, plus enforcement would be a disaster and there would be issues with potential discrimination/ADA lawsuits.

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When I came back to America last month, some of my new shipmates were talking about the hCG diet and how they were losing five pounds over the weekend. When I looked it up, i found out that hCG was a hormone that's produced during pregnancy--which causes a woman to lose some weight the first few weeks.

Basically, you eat from 500 to 1200 calories on this diet, and it's apparently so wonky that if you slip up on the calories for even a day, you'll gain much of that weight right back. And upon more research, some cosmetics and other tolietries can fuck up the diet as well. No, thanks...I'll just keep with eating 1200 calories and take my fat ass to a motherfucking gym.

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It takes X amount of energy to move Y amount of weight. Increase Y, increase X. Energy (fuel) costs money, quite a bit in fact.

I'm not sure what Chad can't grasp here? His fat ass COSTS more for the airline to move. Either he pays more or we all subsidize his lard.

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And that isn't punishing them? At least with a weight based system the playing field is leveled and isn't a case of discriminatory bias of having to purchase another seat stripping the concept of "fat ass" from the treasure trove of "good tidings" known by some to be an anchor point of soap box rantings against people of girth.

You would be deprived of a tool of harassment, nothing more.

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I agree, he's clearly a fat ass. Those of us who weigh more due to muscle mass don't have a problem with the policy. He's humiliated by his disgusting weight, and wants to suppress any rules that bring attention to his lack of exercise and poor dietary decisions.

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I've reported the OP to the mods for inaccurate thread title and requested '& Lard Ass Chad' be added.

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I'm all for this. If weigh-ins don't work, then test passengers as to whether they are able to fit within their seat without spilling over into the other seats. And I don't just mean their ass; I'm talking about their whole body.

I'm pretty sure there's a few other frequent flyers on this board. I fly 30 to 40 times a year and I'm fucking sick of people who can't fit into their seat. Most of the time I fly business class (better than economy but not as good as first class) and even then I encounter assholes who are way too big for the seat. I don't care if it's because of a medical condition or whether you just can't stop eating... if you don't fit in the seat GTFO or buy two tickets.

And don't get me started on the armchair wars. Proper etiquette dictates that the person who was seated first gets to decide whether they want the armrest or not. And if you're too stupid to reserve seats in advance and get stuck in the middle seat, suck it in, shut the fuck up and prepare yourself for an uncomfortable flight.

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As for losing weight in a healthy manner, WeightWatchers is a scientifically sound program. They are all about meticulously managing and documenting your calories, exercise, etc. No diet pills or "grapefruit and soup" bullshit. It's very similar to how The Army nutritionists run their program for people who bust tape.

That's why I don't mind paying for my wife to be in it. If you take advantage of all the data, information, instruction, etc. you will get your money's worth.

The meals and snacks they make taste great and are actually no more expensive than any other brand at the grocery store, and are even sold at Walmart for additional savings.

But there is one type of person who will fail - the person that doesn't have the willpower to follow the program! But really, any well managed program works, if you stick to it.

So far my wife's blood sugar is very stable (she's a diabetic) she has more energy, has lost 15 pounds over 3 months (steady weight loss means no "boomerang" effect where your body rebels and you gain weight because it thinks it's starving) and her cholesterol is much better.

Not plugging it, just saying for her it works great.

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The same thing applies to other forms of transportation. Why aren't buses and trains charging by weight?

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No, it's not. If you take up an additional seat, you pay for that additional seat. You don't get to buy two units for the price of one.

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My knees are so fat that they almost hit the chair in front of me. Woe is me.

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Oh look, and now I'm so fat that my posts are taking up the whole thread.

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Efficiencies. First off buses and trains are MUCH more fuel efficient than airplanes, trains even more than buses (although between the our electric trolley buses and hybrids we have the most fuel efficient bus fleet in the nation). The marginal cost of weight is less.

Secondly is the cost of infrastructure to pull it off. There are three airports in Seattle (I'm including the seaplane one in Lake Union). There are over 1700 bus stops.

Not to mention airports already have the infrastructure both physical and technological installed to handle this. The only modifications needed would be a step up to the scale where you put your baggage to be weighed and some duct tape over the outward facing display (privacy).

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How do you figure this? If the appropriations are made by the airline with installing larger seats as part of the deal then your stance is legless.

If not, then you have a point.

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Yes, but any one of those airports is handling more passengers than any single bus stop. Instituting any sort of weight check on passengers is going to increase the recommended arrival time at the airport by at least an hour (depending on plane size). And there are always last minute stragglers, so it's going to increase delays as well. It's not something that would save an airline money. They either check every passenger for weight, which would increase equipment and labor costs. Or they rely on the honor system, which if passengers lie about their weight (and they would have incentive to do so) would lead to a loss of money at best and causing safety issues at worst.

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Have you flown in the last 5 years? When have you NOT had your baggage weighed? Only difference is that now you would step up on the scale with your baggage. That's what, 2, maybe 3 seconds extra? Just like with baggage charges anything over 'base' will just be charged to your credit card.

[edit] The only additional infrastructure would be pressure pads under the selfserve kiosks for those checking in without checking luggage.

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Airports should institute a system of conveyor belts like UPS did for packaging for people.

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I've flown many, many, many times in the last 5 years. I've checked my baggage maybe 6 times out of my last 40-50 flights. By having all of those people who carry-on go through the process of weighing themselves in, you're still going to cause additional delays. Especially on business commuter flights where hardly anyone checks baggage.

Good luck implementing and enforcing those. I could just stand off to the side and leave my carry-on bags on the pad instead.

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How will weighing a person+luggage be any more time consuming than weighing luggage?

Good point, its why grocery stores are ripping out all there self checkouts.

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My overall message is that for an industry that is seeing companies dying partly because of poor customer satisfaction, instituting a policy that would further decrease customer satisfaction is going to be the final nail in the coffin. It may increase revenue in the short-term, but they will be losing money again soon enough.

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By having everyone, including people who never check their bags, doing so, waiting in a line to get weighed, it will cause delays. I don't know how to explain the concept of "more people waiting in a line means you have to wait longer" other than that.

Good point, the airline will now have to hire an extra employee to monitor the kiosks, or else be short-staffed elsewhere. It's a balancing act between not wanting to spend money and not wanting to increase delays.