Jordan Peterson is not an evolutionary biologist.

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    WTF would he know about fascism? He only coined the term and ran a country according to those principles. It doesn't make him an expert on the subject.
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    once again displaying how you even expect reality to accommodate your privileged ass.

    the entire english speaking world can walk away from "basic respect and dignity" knowing what's meant... you somehow turn that into you being persecuted.

    you are seriously the most self entitled drama bitch I've ever encountered. Does Jenee chew your food for you first?
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    Did Trump start another war? Did Trump drone strike an American citizen without due process?
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    Yeah, how dare people agree upon the meaning of words and I have to communicate based on that agreement. I am going to use words in whatever way I want and you all need to learn my language to communicate with me.

    He is saying this shit while using the agreed upon meaning of words. So it is only when he doesn't like something that he can mean different things.

    You cannot have any sort of legitimate conversation with someone like this. He knows it so whenever he is wrong he just says he is right.

    There are so many morons who are like this. It is just fucking amazing how spoiled and dipshitted they really are sometimes.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    This is a republican trump voter through and through. You can call them libertarians,, teabaggers, conservatives, or CHUDs, but this is exactly the mass of stupid that has festered in america. This comes from a whole life of being told they are special independent thinkers and american exceptionalism makes them that way. This is what toxic americanism brings. This shit exists in other cultures, but america cultivated the fuck out of this and is current kins shit of the world in this aspect of things.

    I would say there are at least 25 percent of these assholes roaming about.
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    Still just opening the door to redefine those terms and then pretend you're oppressed when strangers don't comply.
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  9. Uncle Albert

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    Aww, sweet cheeks want to dictate terms.
    :itsokay:
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    I'm almost fascinated to know how you arrive at this claim...
    then I remember that you're a dishonest little bully hiding behind a keyboard and it makes sense.
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    I don't lie, I don't bully, and I do not submit to your entitled notions of social obligations.
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    Do you think Juvenile Hall is fascism? Not a trick, trying to see where your basis is. Does motivation, intended effect, matter at all?
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    Fashie-forge would have whooped and cheered for a post like that.
    Too bad they scattered like frightened pigeons when Anc took over, and revealed their pose to be a sham.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    there's two lies and a misrepresentation right there...

    maybe you should try troll kingdom? nobody here is interested or impressed.
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    Maybe you should prove it, douchebag.
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  16. Spaceturkey

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    didn't think I needed to include demanding and narcissistic, but here we are.

    dude, we've watched you punch down for years. bully

    we've watched you misrepresent others' words that entire time. liar

    commonly held meanings of words like respect and dignity, you choose to misrepresent as "social obligations"- themselves you paint as somehow victimizing you (narcissist).

    "prove it"... yeah, you go to this a lot. Everything is somebody else's responsibility to provide for your demanding ass.
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    You choosing to believe something or appealing to consensus does not count as proof. Disagreeing with your opinions is not the same as denying objective fact. All you've done is repackaged "He said things I don't like! :weep: "
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  18. Spaceturkey

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    funny, the same could easily (and more honestly) said about you.

    I'm not the one challenging the meanings of words though, so safe to say that the fault is with you. Not that accepting responsibility is something you're known for...
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    Yes, you can SAY anything you want. That doesn't make it true.
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  20. Spaceturkey

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    you really oughta listen to yourself some day.

    it's like talking to a four year old... which i suppose describes the emotional age of Jorpy fangyals like yourself
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    Yes, you can say words mean something entirely different than the definition people use, but that does not make it so.

    The only way UA is not a liar is when he says the word lie means something completely different than it means.
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    It is almost like Jordan Peterson was made for your favorite idiot site because if he was in a academic area of discussion he would be laughed off the site or banned as a disruption. Not on twitter though. I wonder why that is?
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    Eh, not a Jordan Peterson guy but this whole thing is pretty flimsy

    The Tweets that started this whole "investigation" thing are really benign

    https://torontosun.com/news/provinc...rson-investigated-by-college-of-psychologists

    Honestly, if that is what requires a "re-education" then we are in a lot of trouble. I don't like that one bit

    Also he was never going to practice his profession ever again because he's too famous now to do his job effectively and he makes too much money off the right wing rage farming industry

    I'm not going to go all Federal Farmer witchhunt here but there's something about this that is very stinky
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    Eh, the Sun is misrepresenting things, as they tend to do.

    Justice Paul Schabas wrote that the college’s order that Peterson undergo a program on professionalism in public statements balanced its mandate to regulate the profession, “is not disciplinary and does not prevent Dr. Peterson from expressing himself on controversial topics.”

    Peterson had said his statements were not made in his capacity as a clinical psychologist, but instead were “off-duty opinions” – an argument the court rejected.

    “Dr. Peterson sees himself functioning as a clinical psychologist ‘in the broad public space’ where he claims to be helping ‘millions of people,'” Schabas wrote.

    Peterson cannot have it both ways: he cannot speak as a member of a regulated profession without taking responsibility for the risk of harm that flows from him speaking in that trusted capacity.”

    Since at least 2018, the governing body of Ontario’s psychologists — of which Peterson has been a registered member since 1999 despite having stopped seeing patients in 2017 — has received complaints regarding Peterson’s online commentary on a range of issues, from gender transition to climate change.

    Specific complaints listed in the case before the divisional court included posts directed at Canadian politicians, a plus-sized Sports Illustrated model and transgender actor Elliot Page.

    Last November, the college’s complaints committee found Peterson “may be engaging in degrading, demeaning, and unprofessional comments” related to an appearance on “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast, where he identified himself as a clinical psychologist and appeared to demean a former client. The college’s ethics code requires members to use respectful language and not engage in “unjust discrimination.”

    The complaints committee concluded that some of Peterson’s comments posed “moderate risks of harm to the public” including “undermining public trust in the profession of psychology” as well as the college’s ability to regulate the profession. It then ordered the social media coaching program at Peterson’s expense, emphasizing that failure to comply could result in an allegation of professional misconduct.

    Peterson filed for a judicial review, arguing his political commentary is not under the college’s purview and that the college failed to balance its mandate with his right to freedom of expression.

    Schabas said the college pursued a reasonable option by ordering the remedial coaching, which both maintained its professional standards while having minimal impact on Peterson’s constitutional free speech rights.

    “The panel concluded, reasonably, that Dr. Peterson’s behaviour raised a moderate risk of harm to the public,” Schabas wrote.

    The prescribed coaching would focus on Peterson’s “unprofessional language” and would not prevent him from expressing himself on issues he or his audience care about, the judge wrote.

    Citing a clear and transparent review process from the college, previous warnings it had made to Peterson about his language and his “unwillingness to acknowledge the (complaints committee’s) concerns,” Schabas dismissed the judicial review application and ordered Peterson to pay the college $25,000
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/9913905/jordan-peterson-case-social-media-complaints/

    As an adult with a job, I'm allowed to tell people things they don't want to hear all the time, but I'm expected to do so in a professional and reasonably respectful manner, especially when I'm claiming to speak in a professional capacity. :shrug:
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