"Momblocked" - exposing women's hypocrisy about wanting men more involved at home

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19092063/

Article should dovetail nicely with a discussion of the business sector's reluctance to recognize or encourage paternity leave.

I'm almost crying here in the MWR just reading that...

I'll bet she wouldn't like "How would you like my foot in your ass!"

She sounds like a mild control freak.

But I can understand the feeling of wanting to do 50/50 of running the house, and then discovering that means you only get 20/80 of the childraising.

And why the fuck do they need to make a tagline to go with it? "momblocked?"

Sounds like the main reason the little girl likes dad better is because mom's a shrew, or at least really insecure.

And it seems odd to make statements or draw conclusions about a population from a single, anecdotal-sounding case study and a couple of telephone calls.

I'd be a stay at home Dad in a minute if my wife made $250,000 a year.

I've threatened to cancel Miss Plow's birthday party before. It really works

Both the thread title and the title of the article are exaggerations of the actual concent. There is no 'hypocrisy' to be exposed, it's just an informative article about how couples adjust when the man becomes the primary care-giver.

I don't know if it's hypocracy, but it does illustrate the impossibility of having it all, despite what Gloria Steinham and Betty Freedan say. Mommy can't be out of the house at work and be the primary parent and the one who spends the most time with the kids. Neither could daddy for that matter, but that somehow is the normal expectation.

My dad used to wrestle with me.

He used to pretend to be a monster who was going to eat me, and we'd wack the crap out of each other with pillows... until mom said it was dangerous.

My dad has also told me I'd never be allowed to use a computer again, never watch TV again, not go to a friend's house, not have a party, etc. if I didn't behave.

It's not bad. It's just a dad thing.

My mom tends to use milder punishments, and my dad harsher punishments. When they talk things out, everything works out okay.

I think what the families with stay-at-home dads need to realize is that kids will like whoever is around the most. If mom is a busy doctor, but dad was the guy who answered the phone at an insurance company and he gave up his job, then dad will of course know baby girl better.
And if baby girl likes wrestling because of that, then good! In most brother-sister households, you'll find girls who have learned to wrestle and play football because of their brothers.

I prefer Bill Cosby's Dad's approach - 'Son, I brought you into this world. I'll take you out. And it won't bother me none because I'll make another one that looks just like you.'

Counseling? What for?

If you want to be a better nurturing-parent, quit your fucking job. The reason men seem to deal with being a providing-parent better is because we (generally) don't scoop up the kid after they fall and skin their knee, they tell them to get up and keep on. Men usually default to teaching a more independent mindset.

That's how it's been for me anyway.

Ahhhh, so you have ya dad's boot print on ya ass!

Most people who are worth a shit tend to.

Ya dad told ya that, right?!

No, yours did.

When I was little, my dad was fond of a saying. Let's say we were in the woods and I tripped, wrenching my ankle. He'd look at me and say, "I didn't feel it. Get up, keep going." You know what? I got up and kept going until I walked it off.

If it had been my mom, God bless her, she'd have brought everything to a halt and I would have had a full trail-side physical including x-rays if she could have stuffed a machine in her bag.

I am a stay at home mom and I would love to trade places with my husband. I think he would do great. I could use some "momblocked" time.
I do have to say I try really hard to make my husband feel like he has 50/50 in the kids, but sometimes it's hard. I mean I am the one home with them, I am the one that takes care of all their needs(food, clothing, homework and playtime) and I am the one who is up with them at night when they are sick or have nightmares. You almost feel like, who the hell are you to say anything when I am the one who is home all the time. And I am not saying it's right to feel that way, I am just saying it's there.
So I would love it if my husband stayed home and he could see what I go through. And in the same token, it's can't be easy taking on all the financial duties.
It's hard being parents, and it's much harder when two parents are working against each other.

Mmm, I can believe it. I'd just point out that where daughter was concerned, I was the one saying, 'In through the nose, hold it, out through the mouth' to stop her crying while other half was the one yelling for an ambulance.

Ever notice how when women get 'exactly what they want' they aren't happy and its somehow the husband's fault, but the men seem to do just fine no matter where they are?

Odd, that.

Let's extrapolate wildly from anecdotal evidence, shall we?

So you BUY the food and clothes with your money? I think not.

All by themselves? I think not.

That aside...why the hell does Flashlight always have to draw some ugly accusation out of his ass that barely has anything to do with the articles he posts?

There is no hypocrisy here.

That's all I needed to see...

My brother in law is raising their son while my sister is the worker bee. Again, it was simple economics- she makes a crapload more than he could hope to, given their various careers.

We tease him a bit and call him the 'manwife', but he's doing a helluva job and my nephew is doing awesome. Happy, independent, well behaved, and smart as a whip. He plays in his band, works part time, but he's definitely the primary parent. So it can work.

I just wouldn't want to do it, though. Would if I had to, but it would kill me. I'm old school.

Proof again: Men are better at everything.

It's just hyperbole to advertise the thread, catch someone's eye and make them click on it.

OTOH, don't you think there does tend to be a bit of hypocrisy with women always saying that they want men to be more involved at home and with the children, but only up to a certain point? Past that point, the woman gets jealous that she's losing her position as the primary caregiver.

Women are contradictory, they say they want the New Age model male, but deep down they still want that Old School version, the one that goes to work, is the primary breadwinner, and plays the role of disciplinary enforcer.

Ever notice how some men turn into whiny little bitches at an expression of actual equality between men and women (e.g. the wife retaining her family name, as the husband retains his)?

But I do agree with the folks that this woman sounds like a real control freak, regardless of her name.

1) I've never seen any evidence of "equality between men and women."

2) How is a woman expressing her equality with men by retaining her daddy's name?

It doesn't have so much to do with the woman herself; it's more the presumptions other folks make that it is somehow wrong or unfair or otherwise not right for the woman to want to keep her name, presumptions I find silly.