Mueller Investigation

I'll provide concrete examples of left on right violence. My friends here who disagree can do the same.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media...ence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/

Cue up lefties who don't like the source. However, they'll trot out left leaning sites I'm sure. Can't argue with facts, however.

https://wordforge.net/index.php?thr...jumpstart-the-revolution.118295/#post-3162661
https://wordforge.net/index.php?thr...situation-politician-seen-with-antifa.118994/
https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/dayton-gets-all-mass-shootery.118463/page-7#post-3169374
https://wordforge.net/index.php?thr...orist-organisation.118425/page-4#post-3167446
https://wordforge.net/index.php?thr...sues-any-thoughts.118214/page-20#post-3160824
https://wordforge.net/index.php?thr...ar-prison-sentence.116037/page-3#post-3062979

Hey American righties

Hey American lefties

You're both horrible people that do shitty things to each other. It's not a contest, you both suck

Signed,
Normal people

Most of your links aren't formatted right and so they aren't linking to the posts directly.

But for the links that did work, those posts contain nothing stating that "the left is never violent."

I want you hosers to get me a fresh case, first thing in the morning!

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmZg6qu6U-0yYXxCtpPuOxNdO_Bw250uI

Good thing you saw through my cunning plan. All we've heard in response to your challenge is
Oh I see some responses...I don't see any of them making the blanket statements that you say they did, but if it makes you happy...all good.

Of course you can, no one (at least I hope no one) would claim it doesn't happen. I asked @Tuttle for evidence to back his claim that there is statistically more violence from the left than from the right. Personally I find it doubtful that such evidence could be found given the complete lack of incentive for anyone to sped the absurd amount of time and effort into compiling the data and running the statistics properly.

If a statement cannot be proven (which it isn't) then it is one of opinion rather than fact, which is hardly a controversial thing to point out surely?

I've certainly never claimed that.

In fact you'd struggle to find anything I've posted which was in support of antifa, largely because I fundamentally object to violence in politics.

Sure, it's a matter of opinion. Still, this is a pretty impressive list, is it not? I certainly can't remember even a 10th as many aggressions of right on left in recent memory. Still...just my opinion. Now I'm waiting for the list from the left.

I don't think I'd call any list of violence "impressive", but the source is clearly biased and makes no effort to put it into real context.

A quick google revealed what I suspected, most media sources show bias whilst genuine scholarly work on the questions around political violence tend to focus on the psychological dynamics rather than partisanship, which frankly is exactly what I'd hope to see.

The problem is such studies don't tend to address questions of who is worse given that they are about studying the process, not supporting a side.

This paper does give some insight to the demographics of hate crimes and seems to be about as apolitical and academically valid as we are going to get in terms of a straight answer, being a meta study of law enforcement data and a peer reviewed paper on criminology rather than a political publication.

Page 10 is of particular interest in terms of a take home.

So whilst we can't be sure of a direct political motivation in any given case it's hard to reconcile the trends with a claimed predominance of left wing political violence given that typically left leaning groups are disproportionately targeted, with the overall trend shifting from a ten year decrease in hate crime to a marked upshift in 2015/16.

Race was the single most common motivator , followed by sexuality, but attacks on the basis of religion are increasing proportionately (specifically against Jews and Muslims).

Hard to square that circle with anecdotal evidence about antifa to be fair, but a long slow reduction in hate crime under Obama followed by a sudden upturn the years of Trump's campaign and election, primarily targeting black people, LGBTQ groups, Jews and Muslims does seem to indicate a sorry picture.

Uh, I is confused here...

What 'blanket statements' did
I say they made?

Bad wording. Sorry. The blanket statements were not from you.

Over and under on how many days he serves before he’s pardoned— .5

a little over three years? That's reasonable IMHO. He can do that standing on his head!

So you're going with the over. Here's some free advice: those emails really aren't from a Nigerian prince and they really won't send you a million bucks if you send them $10K.

About those claims that the jury foreperson was "totally biased"...this seems to have been overlooked as the media go after other bright, shiny objects.

A former juror in the trial of Roger Stone, a longtime associate of President Donald Trump, defended the forewoman whom the president accused of "significant bias" that influenced the guilty verdict.

Juror Seth Cousins told CNN on Wednesday night, "The irony here is that Tomeka Hart, who we elected as our foreperson on a secret ballot," was "perhaps the strongest advocate in the room for a rigorous process, for the rights of the defendant and for making sure that we took it seriously and looked at each charge."

Well now, this is interesting...

More at the link.

The judge was appointed by Republican president George W. Bush.

They lost his records!

LOST.

How the fuck does that happen?

It's shit like this that makes people think there are shenanigans going on.

Yeah, I'mma need a more solid source than Donald "Lies Like Breathing" Trump or Flynn's lawyers:

Flynn's lawyers SAY there's a memo clearing him and the prosecution can't find it? Well, likely because Flynn's lawyers are talking out of their fucking arses.

They could claim there's a magic rock that keeps tigers out of your garden, it's not on the prosecution to locate it for them.

Bye!

And this little tidbit:

The Senate report also examined the inclusion of material from a notorious dossier showing purported ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Though elements of the dossier were included in an annex to the intelligence assessment, it “was not used in the body of the I.C.A. or to support any of its analytic judgments,” the senators found.

The dossier was compiled by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer whom the F.B.I. referred to by the code name “Crown,” according to the report. The Steele document included unverified and salacious accusations about Mr. Trump and has become a focus of Mr. Trump’s allies, who have sought to conflate it with the much broader investigation into Russia’s election interference.​

And charges have been dropped