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  1. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    This is a rare thing (for me): I bought two guns at almost the same time.

    The top one is the Marlin 1895SBL, which I fell in love with at first sight. It's a .45-70 lever action, all stainless...just beautiful. I was never much for the old cartridges and carbines, but Elwood swayed me on the virtues of hot-loaded .45-70s. This one will probably get a scope.

    The bottom one is the Saiga 12, a Kalashnikov that fires 12 gauge shotgun shells. It's quite a weapon. But it's going to get cooler: I'm having it modified with a pistol grip, skeleton stock, 10 round magazine, and (eventually) another EOTech sight. The shiny thing hanging behind the magazine is the concession I have to make to California: a tool to remove the magazine.

    Haven't shot either yet (in fact, just picked 'em up yesterday morning) but am looking forward to unleashing them... :diablo:
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  2. TheBurgerKing

    TheBurgerKing The Monarch of Flavor

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    nice, Here is a pic where you can see mt Benelli M2, my M44 Mosin-Nagant, and my M-10, also, in a few weeks, i'll have the first parts of my SKS build to show off
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  3. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    On the Saiga, be sure you have your gas regular set to the proper setting. That causes the majority of the failure to feeds people complain about:
    http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=262

    Also you can save HUNDREDS of bucks doing the conversion yourself. You only need pretty common tools, time, and the ability to do precision work. He did this in the garage (still waiting on Tromix trigger pack).
    Info on 922r:
    http://home.comcast.net/~navy87guy/home/922r.html

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    The only thing you'll have to get done is chopping the barrel. A welded or pinned muzzle brake counts towards the overall length, but if your goal is 26" then the few minutes between chopping it down, threading it and then pinning the brake on, you have manufactured a SBS, which I don't have to tell you is a big :nono: unless you have an SOT.


    On the mags, go with AGP. Both I and my buddy tried the Surefires, and not only did I have trim mine down just to get the mag to fit, but feeds about half the time. Haven't tried the AGPs but my buddy loves his, and other Saiga owners agree that they are the best.

    Best place for Saiga 12 shit:
    http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=25_31

    Tips from the man himself:
    http://www.tromix.com/S12Tips.pdf
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  4. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I'm trying to decide on something new myself. I want something lighter and smaller than one of my 1911's to carry in light clothes during the summer. I currently use my Airweight J-Frame loaded up with +P+ ammo.

    .22, .25, .32 and .380 are non-starters for me. I'd rather stick with the J-Frame. But, my Glock 27 is to thick and the baby 1911's have a serious history of reliability problems.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Five seveN. :bergman:
  6. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    A full-size service pistol? I've got plenty, thanks. :nyer:
  7. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Well, it is lighter and smaller... you never specified by how much. :D




    And I need someone I know to buy one and test it out before I shell out for one. :bergman:
  8. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    One of the other firearm's instructors, a SGT, owns one and loves it. But, even Gulf States charges a premium for the Ammo and Mags.

    I've shot his. It's nice, but I've never been big on wild-cat calibers like that.
  9. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=HO&category=0&prodID=HO4507

    Hornady 500gr DGS, as in Dangerous Game Solid (Kinetic Energy Penetrator).

    But, before you ever, ever, ever, ever put the first "hot" cartridge together, call the bullet manufacturer and Marlin and talk to their tech people. Get their specs on pressures before you start tinkering. You could easily kill yourself at worst or blow up your gun at best.

    Edit: It'll drop anything short of an Abrams' tank at <100 yards, but don't expect to reach out and touch someone. At 300 yards it's dropped 7 feet.
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  10. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    The 1895 will apparently do all the "magnum" loads from Buffalo Bore, including this one and this one.

    405 grains/2000 fps or 500 grains/1600 fps will probably satisfy all my zombie-repelling needs.
  11. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Just hang on when you squeeze the trigger. It's a gen-u-wine Grade A thumper. Mine is helped a lot by being an older model with factory barrel porting. But, the newer ones (made in the last three years) without it...well...you'll know you've shot a fucking gun when you touch one off.
  12. TheBurgerKing

    TheBurgerKing The Monarch of Flavor

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    i'm looking at a Sig Saurer p-95 to replace my S&W sigma series
  13. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Do you mean a Ruger P-95? If so, outside of the Blackhawks, Redhawks, and Vaquero's I already own, I'll never again recommend or buy a Ruger product because of Bill Ruger's stance on the Assault Weapons Ban.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Understandable.

    But Bill Ruger's dead and his company today sells an AR clone that comes with 30 round magazines. I wouldn't hold a grudge against a company whose management team promotes that...

    I once had a personal ban on S&W because of their acquiescence to a Clinton-era gun regulation scheme. The company has since changed hands and I would have no problem whatsoever buying one of their product today. In fact, I rather like their M&P 45...
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  15. TheBurgerKing

    TheBurgerKing The Monarch of Flavor

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    my mistake, it was the Sig P250 I was thinking of
  16. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I hold a grudge. Forever and ever, Amen.

    For instance, I will never buy another new S&W despite me loving their old wheel guns because of their bending to stupidity by adding the now horribly inconsistent and dangerous locks to their weapons.

    So long as the current owner is in charge and those locks exist...No, sir. Fuck you. :)

    Sturm-Ruger, Smith & Wesson, and Colt no longer exist as far as the hundreds of people I influence are concerned and I hope each and every executive and share holder dies, on the street, cold and hungry.
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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  18. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    A very old used one. That way the money doesn't go to Ruger. I should have been more clear in my post. :P
  19. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I've got a PAST shoulder pad that I use with my .45-70. I tried it without once.


    Once.


    It's kind of amusing - or perverse - plinking soda cans with it, knowing the cartridge cost more than the soda.

    btw - for recoil comparison, I've noticed a freind's Marlin carbine in .35 Rem feels about the same as my 1886 Winchester (24" octagin barrel) in .45-70.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    If this is true, then you all are a bunch of Fucking Nancys! My Marlin .35 was my first real rifle, and I shot the fuck out of it as a little kid!
  21. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    An SKS build?
  22. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    24" barrel.

    My GS has an 18-1/2" barrel. All kidding and joking aside, Hornady's Lever Revolution load feels like I'm shooting my Marine Magnum with slugs. My hand loads are about 50% more felt recoil.
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    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Yah - .35 Rem carbine, vs 8-pound .45-70 rifle.
  24. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I think my new 1895SBL .45-70 weighs about the same as my AR-15 with rails.
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    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    I am now considering the purchase of a Marlin lever action in .30-30.
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    is our puppy, Tobey. He is a 2-months old white Pomeranian. He is very adorable.

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  27. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Go with the original Brush Buster. :dendroica:
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    TheBurgerKing The Monarch of Flavor

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    You'll see, got stuck in Florida for a month due to a dumb bitch on a cell phone not seeing my car, so I'm behind on everything, but I got a crappy, beat up SKS that i'm about to build up on
  29. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    This should be... interesting.
  30. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Oh I got nothing against SKS's. I think they're great firearms. It's just that when I hear "build", I think, "buy a stripped upper and all the parts and put the whole thing together myself....and I've never heard of anyone doing that with a gun that you can buy in damn near pristine condition for less than 300 bucks.

    ...but I see that you're talking about buying a beater and fixing it up. That's great!

    So what are you planning? What type of SKS is it? Pleas tell me you're not going to turn that poor thing into a TAPCO "Operator" abomination.
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