No Scotus/Obamacare thread?

No raving and drooling over impending socialistic doom crashing down on us all? Biggest SCOTUS case since Bush v. Gore and not a single post?

Looks like things went well for the administration yesterday, but not so well today. I'm still not sure if the court will strike down the individual mandate, but whatever happens will be very interesting.

They didn't go well for the administration yesterday. Their best bet was delaying this turkey until 2015 but they didn't even bother that. Instead they got their ass kicked around today - something that would have been avoided had yesterday gone differently.

Folks are too busy with all the gay sex, parody, and/or ridiculously long threads at the moment.

And Skittles.

It doesn't involve guns, skittles, black kids, "stand your ground laws", nor gay sex so Wordforge doesn't care at the moment.

You left out the dead baby jokes.

Dead babies don't need healthcare.

I have been paying attention to this, but am holding my breath too much to want to debate it.

My favorite question/statement today:
"So you can create commerce in order to regulate it?" - Justice Kennedy

I have been watching and waiting.

I figure those lawyers are doing all the debating that needs to be done right now.




Oh, but I did like the comments that the LA AG made: that if Obamacare went into effect, the state would have to declare bankruptcy to convert to that system; the one that LA is doing now seems to be covering all the folks who need it.

And the comments that Mass was having to pay more instead of less using the Obamacare system.

I'm glad everyone has health care in...Louisiana.

Bottom line: a 12 year old could tell you the bill is unconstitutional. The fact that this even needs to be argued tells you what deep kimche we're in. If the SCOTUS lets it stand then the Constitution is dead and buried. Game over.

We've been arguing this issue already for more than 2 years.

Well considering POTUS and his followers were saying that NO ONE had a way to cover everyone, and LA states it WAS covering everyone .... It would seem that POTUS and his followers didn't check into the LA system before writing their Opus Disgustus.

I was amazed at how many otherwise intelligent friends of mine on Facebook were going on about how Obamacare is no different than requiring that someone buy auto insurance in order to travel on public roads.

Unreal.

Yeah they really do seem stuck on that one. It's odd, because the car insurance thing is different from the health insurance thing in so many BIG ways that I can't see how anyone calls it equivalent.

I started to respond to their inane Facebook posts, but decided against it. I otherwise like these folks and a couple of them would've definitely gotten butthurt if I'd pointed out the flaw in their comparison.

If you tell them that the states require that, not the Federal government, and that it falls under states rights, then they will call you a racist.

Moreover, only those folks with cars need to buy the insurance.

And only those people who are alive need health care.

But not all of them. Only the sick ones.

From the skeptical attitude in the questions of Justice Kennedy---considered to be the swing vote between the liberals and conservatives---I'd say the Individual Mandate looks likely to go down. Whether the rest will, who knows? The Administration has said the mandate is an essential part of the law, and there is no severability clause...

Considering that many folks think that the government should give it to them free of charge.....

Good thing that never happens! Also, nobody has ever been injured suddenly.

Someone said that if the Mandate is struck down, it would not necessitate the loss of the rest of the law.

Why don't conservatives support the mandate? Other than being told to do something by the government, righties should love this. It's designed to stop people from freeloading on the health care system and driving costs up for people who do pay into it (or whose salary is reduced to have an employer pay into it.) Poor people getting free healthcare? Hello, handout! Free stuff alert! People without insurance steal from those who do. Kinda like taxes, right?

What planet do you live on?

I'm thinking you missed something.

The dude said "health care". Healthy people don't need that.

Now if he had said "health insurance" or "health care coverage"...

There's also apparently no need for immunizations or any other form of preventive care.

You can't get health care once you're sick.

Nor can you get auto insurance after you crash your car to cover your car crash.

I meant coverage.

No, I got it quite clearly. You made the logical fallicy that nobody who's healthy will ever be not healthy. And when healthy people get not healthy, they need health care. And if they don't have health insurance, then chances are they're getting that health care (which they will never need, mind you) for free.

Uninsured people in California make me pay more money for insurance. And I'm not thrilled about it.

Edit: was responding to your response to face. But the point stands. The line between healthy and sick can be very thin.