Pakistan Taliban kill scores in Peshawar school massacre

Isn't it ironic that the people taking the lead in the battle are the people of Dresden marching in the streets?

What the Muslims overlooked is that when you dig under the skin of an enlightened European, you find a racist genocidal maniac who wants to kill them all. A few years ago Germany had some pit bull attacks that killed children. Their first reaction was to kill every pit bull in Germany because it was an efficient and logical way to solve the problem.

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Whenever these coordinanted, brutal hits are done in schools I can't help but wonder how they haven't orchestrated one here in the states. We have a hard enough time dealing with it when its a single emo teenager, I can't imagine, okay I can, I don't want to imagine the spectacle these types would love to put on over here. It's probably just a matter of time.

That's why he have to use the torture.

It's almost impossible for a school to respond to something like this or a Beslan attack, in part because our classrooms don't have weapon's lockers and very few schools were laid out to give the kids overlapping fields of fire. Interestingly, the worst school attack in US history, and one that possibly featured the first car bomb, was an inside job. Bath School Attack

Because people have been wrong for 10,000 years and now hand wringing liberals are right.

Those guys sure are on a rampage this week. Somehow this all seems connected - Pakistan, Sydney, 30 dead in the Yemen and so on. Maybe AQ tries to conquer back the headlines. Also gotta see this in connection with the trouble Russia is in thanks to economic sanctions (small part) and plummeting oil prices (large part). Anyone who thinks this is a coincidence is a fool. I anything but a conspiracy nut but there is the pot and boy is it being stirred right now.

If I was stirring I'd try to blame Russia for the woes in the ME so the crazies start attacking the rodina. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to play high stakes - or any - chess with Russians.

Mark my words: it's only a matter of time before there are incidents in the west. A little orchestrated beheading action in 20 shopping malls all over Europe or the US during the final christmas shopping craze would go a long way.

As usual we have calls for the sledgehammer approach. And as usual, this will make things worse. The west should assist the decent people of the region in defeating and undermining the Taliban. This is slow and difficult work which will not make headlines or sate the thirst for revenge.

Some sort of flare-up in Syria, too.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-nusra-idlib-20141215-story.html

Wasn't it Einstein who basically said that if you tackle the same problem in the same way again and again, why expect a different outcome?

You're right that any action the west can take in the region must be slow. It's called 'education'. The west is building schools etc in places like Afghanistan and the way the crazies are attacking them shows they know very well how books and pens are their worst enemies, not F-22s and Hellfire missiles.

Doesn't mean acute fires don't have to be put out. Putting the hammer down on Syria and the IS controlled regions would be a good start. Also, disperse hotspots like the Gaza strip. Stop fucking bombing it and start rebuilding it with all the money. Well fed people with perspectives are FAR less likely to fall prey to extremist paroles. But we can't let up there. If need to, put preferably Arab soldiers into every new classroom or whatever. Just putting it there and then watching it burn a minute later is counter productive.

SCORPION BOMBS! I can't believe we didn't think of it first. So.....is this a bullshit article or what's up here?
The logistics of collecting thousands of scorpions is daunting. And spitting on each scorpion? Really?
What say you, Word Forge? BTW blasting "Rock You Like A Hurricane" during the scorpion bombardment would be funny as shit, except few would get the joke.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ctic-used-2-000-years-ago-against-Romans.html

I suspect fundies generally don't have the imagination to go off the reservation when it comes to planning. Your average emo kid having played GTA can probably imagine far worse things than someone whose leisure time mainly consists of being brainwashed by reading religious tracts, so they follow the tried and tested shit.

Agreed, however since aspects of Pakistan governance has been instrumental in protecting and fostering groups like the Taliban, it's not as easy as that.

For a few years after this I've no doubt Pakistan will be more open to dealing with such groups, but before long they'll go back to thinking they can bottle them up again and point them towards their enemies.

I'm still highly fond of the West offering education to the poor in places like Pakistan - get them educated, and send them back to undermine the frothing loons.

Or to be killed by the loons.

But yes, the long game is the winning game in this case. Altho the "sterilize with nuclear fire" option holds some appeal as well.

Because pandering to them has worked so well thus far.

They just see that as weakness.

Yeah, what's a few centuries work compared to the hundreds of thousands of people killed and maimed in the name of Allah, God, Jahweh, or whatever fucking excuse people use to hurt each other.

Who are those people, exactly?

This new movement marching in the streets of Dresden and in other places is a rather bizarre bunch. Far too many nutheads among this crowd. Many of them cheer for Putin, for example, and hate America with a passion, and want Germany to leave NATO... As if all the conspiracy nuts left the internet for a second to gather on the streets!

I share their view that Islam is a
threat to Europe, but that's all... I don't care about the Christian Abendland, I care about secularism. I have very mixed feelings about this new rightwing movement in Europe, to say the least... Well, at least these people stir some shit up, which is a good thing. That's democracy... The political establishment better suck it up and listen what these people have to say. They may be afraid for no reason, they may be wrong on many levels, but ignoring and ridiculing them won't help. Democracy is a bitch!

I don't see anyone interested in pandering to them, just starving them of support in the long term.

Jan! Where ya been?

A lot of them might not be respectable in the west, but they're at least more progressive than crazed Salafi gunmen. There are nationalist and moderate Islamic parties in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Or if you're looking for really heroic groups, check out RAWA (Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan). Even the Taliban consist of hardcore scumbags and more moderate pragmatists who are using the only power structures that exist within Pashtun culture. The former can be isolated and destroyed, the latter negotiated with.

We already have a religious war in the world.

The only difference is that one side is reaching for guns, knives, and bombs while the other side is reaching for excuses.

I lurk a lot... Posting from my mobile is a pain in the ass.

gturner is amusing when he rants about creationists. But he has no clue about anything else, so I felt the need to post.

I haven't ranted about creationists in a long time. They evolved.

Your posts about religion crack me up. You have talent! I'm so sad Bulldog left. You would have liked him. And you would have loved Shep, but he "evolved", too... Same for John... lololol...

In the good old days of wf, the religious nutters were a strong faction and a great source for amusement. But all things must pass.

The Taliban are creationists, btw. Interestingly, the Cold War provided some of the impetus for America's increased religiosity, as our opponents were atheist communists. As our conflict with Islam drags out there could be some similar side-effects.

Of course we could point out that Muslims refuse to capitalize the name of Allah, Abraham, Jesus, and Muhammed, which is the worst form of disrespect and an unforgivable insult to God. They might argue that their language doesn't have capital letters, but honestly, in 1300 years the greatest minds in their society couldn't invent a goddamn capital 'A'? No, it's a calculated insult and can only come from the likes of Satan, along with the rest of their religious writings where they spell it 'allah'.

Indeed. They were nothing more than a list that could be continually updated - every entry a political point. I mean, I forget where you could find these lists, but I remember they weren't too hard to find.

I remember that! About when I was leaving Germany there was a big deal with military folk. You couldn't bring your pit bulls (and a few other breeds maybe Rotweilers) with you when you got stationed there. About the same time they instituted a ban on military bringing guns to Germany. Of course if you went to all the classes and paid all the money and joined
a German shooting club you could shoot a gun owned by a German, but only under strict supervision. Fuck all that! Wait until you get back to America and strut your ass down to Walmart
and buy a gun and a hunting license and let it rock brother! Fuck those Nazis - let them live under that shit, we will choose a different path.

I have severe reservations about any action that would solve the situation short of complete occupation and administration not seen since the likes of the post-WWII Axis powers or British Raj.

The governments that administer the discussed territories are clearly incompetent and must be replaced by proper rule.

Don't despair, we still have Chaos Descending and The Lonely Squire!