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  1. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    "Privilege" in modern parlance is a useless measure for anyone who prefers effort over excuses. It gains you nothing but something else to bitch about.
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  2. Rincewiend

    Rincewiend 21st Century Digital Boy

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    Raise the minimum wage...
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Says the guy who cries about trans-es on Trek instead of getting off his ass and writing his own SF show.
    :lol:
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  4. Jenee

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    kinda like bitching about SJWs and other right wing keywords that get FF and podcasters panties all up in a twist?

    If you're going to bitch about liberal keywords, then bitch about, or don't use conservative keywords. yes, you can bitch and say whatever you want. But, then you should expect to get slammed for it.
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  5. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    Holy shit wall of text. :soma:

    Didn't need ANY of that explained.

    The end.

    Everyone concedes that as a basic theme. But unfair is not interchangeable with "unjust."

    Acknowledge it as a position you must choose to accept and act on is fine, basing your worldview on the insistence that it is just axiomatic to the point of constituting an obligation beyond consent is not.
  6. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    All of you "progressives" need to just come clean and admit that what you really want is a centrally planned economy with yourselves in charge so that you can make sure everything is "fair."
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  7. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    When you put it that way, what is so bad about that? Yes, that means we would eliminate your ability to piss on people because you are white, but that is actually a good thing for non-racist people.

    What really is amazing is you said all of that thinking it was a terrible thing, which makes you a POS.
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  8. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I just want Bernie Madeoff to get pounded up the ass like a convenience store robber.
    Well, I don't want anyone to get pounded up the ass, really, but if we're going to have medieval style prisons, then let's make that shit equal.

    But Bernie Madeoff proves my point about crime having a class system.

    Convenience store robberies are little stinky crimes, and ponzi schemes are "smart business".
  9. Jenee

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    All you "assholes" need to just come clean and admit that what you really want is to get fucked by a billionaire in the hopes that he will give you a golden shower.
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  10. mburtonk

    mburtonk mburtonkulous

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    Nah. We just think people shouldn't have to be homeless.
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  11. mburtonk

    mburtonk mburtonkulous

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    I know the ol' "they deserve to get raped in prison" is a trope, but
    - no, that's not what prison is for, and
    - the way this is presented is pretty homophobic.

    :bailey:
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  12. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Rightforge- Stop complaining, and work to change your lot!! :shakefist:

    Leftforge- *Works to make AOC president* :?:

    Rightforge- Not like that! :calli: :whew:
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  13. Jenee

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    More like:

    Conservatives: corporations don't have to pay employees a decent wage.
    Conservatives: poor people shouldn't get food stamps.
    Liberals: .... uhmmm ...
    Conservatives: Fuck you and your progressive ideology. Shut up and stop trying to tell us how to live!
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  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Hey! Let's ask a dead Frito Lay employee how free he feels!

    Hey, dead Frito Lay employee, you've just seen UA's standard rant, what say you?

    Frito Lay employee ghost- Ooooooo!! Ooooooo!!! Fucking oooooo!!!

    "Fucking oooo" indeed!
    Now here's Shooter with sports!
    :D
  15. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Leftforge- We made AOC President!!

    Leftforge Six Months Later- Well fuck, that didn't work out the way we thought it would . . .
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  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    .....a Klanner tried to blow up Washington. Oh, wait, that's exactly what I thought would happen.
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  17. Jenee

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    @Lanzman Nope. In this case, your stupid emoticon will not do. Please, explain to us your thought process. Because that's all I read/hear you say.

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  18. Jenee

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    LOL. No. Because we (leftforge) is smarter than the rightforge trumpsters.
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  19. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    You think electing AOC will result in a clanner trying to blow up Washington? That didn't seem to happen when Obama got elected . . . or at least, no more than it usually does.
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  20. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    so what are you planning for the first anniversary of the great sedition?
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  21. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    I know I would be perfectly happy with something akin to Scandinavian-style democratic socialism, where there is not a centrally planned economy, but there is an adequate basic safety net, adequate schooling adequate basic health care. It would have to be adjusted to factor in potential (partial) solutions to racism, our particular other historical and other quirks.

    I would even be happy with something that is more in keeping with our current system but where one could truly say that there was equality of opportunity such that anyone who wanted to put in the effort had a reasonable chance of improving their lot, and there were reasonable limits to how much wealth one could acquire or pass on.
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  22. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Lalalalala! You're lying! Comma-nizzum!
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  23. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama

    There were multiple assassination plots, including by members of the US military. There were attempted bombings. There were multiple ricin poisoning attempts.

    People plotted to kill the first lady and rape her daughters.

    One neo-Nazi was shot dead by his wife. Why? He was assembling a dirty bomb and planned on detonating it near the white house.

    You know what? Being too stupid to get actual news isn't patriotic, and denying objective reality isn't manly, it's the ultimate form of childishness.
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  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Operative word is try.
    The underpants bomber tried.

    As for AOC pulling off her mask, and going "muuaahahhaaa!!" that didn't happen with Obama either.
    What did happen is he got obstructed by cock blockers that don't want government to even function.
    And I'd see that coming too.
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  25. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Let me help you out with the hard part, there.
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  26. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Well, it should be easy to come up with a comparative list for Trump or Bush then, shouldn't it?

    Do you honestly think I would have posted that list without checking the other presidents in the 21st century?

    Here's Ws. One attempt by a US citizen. This is over the same 8 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_George_W._Bush"

    Trump had one in four years - death by forklift:
    https://www.ajc.com/news/national/n...assassination-attempt/ZdOibaDSJ9D6TdWm4H0yRJ/

    Trump also has the dubious claim (one of many) of having a fan try to breach the White House to talk to him - who then later killed 4 at a Waffle House. He was a 'sovereign citizen.'

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_Waffle_House_shooting#Suspect
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  27. Damar

    Damar Liberal Elitist

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    Is anybody here really advocating that? Most progressives I know have Bachelors & Masters degrees. They make more money than the conservatives in my circle. Stands to reason that a centrally planned economy would hurt the progressives more than the conservatives.
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  28. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Lanz loves the uneducated!
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  29. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Conservatives being paranoid that we're secret violent commie revolutionaries is an act of projection.
    Lying about their violent impulses is what they do.
    How many times have the "law and order" types turned right around and committed crimes?
    I've lost count.
    As for "central planning" admiring dictators is what Trump just did for 4 years, thus by transitive property what Trumpers did by cheering him on.
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  30. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    That isn't meant to be an excuse not to try. No significant effort carries a guarantee of success.

    But...I can virtually guarantee you will not improve your lot if you don't try to do something to break out of it.
    I'm not insinuating anything: I'm stating that if you're not satisfied with where you're at, you need to look for opportunities to improve. As the saying goes: when you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got.

    For people near the bottom, it isn't (necessarily) a matter of working harder. If you've got two full-time jobs, you're already working about as hard as anyone could ever be expected to. Of course, if a poor person can work harder, they might be able to move themselves ahead by doing so for at least a little while. If a person works some extra hours for a few months, that might (as an example) let them get a car to drive to a farther but better-paying job. Or it may get them enough money to take a night course.

    Apart from working harder, it's a matter of (1) seeking opportunities, (2) making better use of the resources one does have, (3) taking on more responsibility, (4) learning/acquiring skills, (5) reducing or eliminating counter-productive activity or unnecessary expenditure, and (6) avoiding situations that make success more difficult.
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