Parents need to ask babies for consent...

You monster.

okay I'm going to give thanks and count my blessings right about now.

Wait till you see what I do to him when he wakes up...

Maybe I'm biased, but I view child psych experts who don't have children with the same skepticism I view Catholic priests as marriage counselors.

Mom would have laid on the rather effective Catholic guilt, Dad would have beaten me to death.

No one who dyes their hair purple is an expert on anything.

Except on dying their hair purple and being an idiot.

"Come, come, Mr. Scott. Young minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant."

it must be a blue moon - I agree with you 100 percent on this.

...or why the democrats are gonna lose in 2020...

Rightforge- "Hey liberals! Here's an obscure extremist wacko saying something stupid! What do you have to say to that, huh??".

Leftforge- "Hey conservatives! Here's a not-obscure leader of the country who millions of you voted for committing treason, and dismantling the middle class, what do you have to say to that, huh??".

Rightforge- "Well....IIII didn't vote for him. I voted...Ron Paul?? Yeah, that's it. Ron Paul. *Tiptoes away* ".

...or occasionally killing zombies in a video game cutscene movie.

Oh hell yeah, Dad would have grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and thrown me out the door with a "do NOT come back in here." In the rain. In a tornado.

To my horror, I encountered a similar pair of kids in a different waiting room many years later. Their parents weren't ignoring them this time, but their parenting technique was whining "Come on, guys, please stoooop." It didn't work.

That child needs training. :|

You train a dog; you teach a child. How would you go about it?

Pieces of cheese, and cattle prods.

He’ll send it to church to become a “Christian.”

before reading any other reply I'll go ahead and say what I said on Facebook when this came up:

while the specific example reads at first as a bit silly, the suggested behavior harms nothing, costs nothing, disrupts nothing and if it leads to a lifetime of encouraging a child to understand what is and is not proper bodily exposure and contact, and the need to give and receive consent, then there's certainly a potential for a positive impact (if it initiates a pattern and isn't just an off-beat variation of your usual baby talk)

I can only imagine that for some guys, the notion that women (or children) get to consent to such exposure rather than submitting to whatever the man wants might be 'insane" but the era of male entitlement is, hopefully, ending and some dudes will struggle with that more than others.

She says specifically that of course the child can't actually consent at that point, and the purpose of the proposal is not to actually GET consent from a child that literally can't. She's simply suggesting that it's good to create a culture of consent from the child's first influences. We don't know for certain (in every case) when a child starts processing hings they hear on a level that impacts their future behavior but research is showing more and more that it's earlier than you think. For example, kids pick up on and react to gendered behavior much earlier than they can verbalize it.

I don't disagree that this particular example might indeed be earlier than is necessary to achieve the goal, but it sure as hell won't HURT the child nor will it cost the adult anything. It's sort of like the folks who think you can read to or play music for the fetus in the womb and improve the child's cognition- maybe it does, maybe it's silly...but it absolutely won't hurt and it costs nothing, so why should anyone bitch about it?

Uh huh. Righties call everyone else Snowflakes, also get bent out of shape over something as completely harmless as this. Your planet must be a big ol' eggshell.

no to having their diaper changed?

That choice is self-negatively-reinforcing, it womn't be made but once.
I don't think it's at all certain that your kid is gonna say "I prefer to sit in my shit, thanks."

And the proposition is not "get their consent for everything" but "ask for consent when exposing their private areas" before folks start asking "what if they say no to eating their peas?" or whatever.

because this is SPECIFICALLY about consent for intimate contact, not consent about EVERYTHING affecting the child.

and again, the point is not "if the baby doesn't consent you can't proceed" but about creating a culture from the jump where consent for such exposure is always paramount. I don't see how that's a questionable goal.

this is kinda like my obvious subject of interest: From time to time you'll hear a story, or even see it for yourself , where a parent has a small child in the toy (or clothing) department and the child ks to get a toy 's "for" the other sex ( boy wants a Barbie, or a girl wants a truck, or whatever) and the parent strictly says "No! That's a toy for girls and you're not a girl"
Typically, that sort of thinking extends beyond toys to all sorts of "gendered behavior" so that, say, the boy is expected to work in the yard, the girl to wash dishes, and so forth.

There's a school of thought - a correct one in my view - that artificially shoehorning kids into those defined gender expectations is stupid and not good for society. The vast majority of boys are still going to prefer the truck (and girls the doll) but there's a difference in getting what you want and getting what your sex is "allowed" to have. Because of this, a lot of psychologists will encourage parents to decouple a lot of social expectations from the child's apparent physical sex. Fuck "pink and blue" and all the other shit that really has no relation to whether or not one has a penis and start from before you would think that a kid would even be able to pick up on the gender expectations (because they DO pick up on them...but that's too far down the tangent for now)

The point is - we may THINK that the child is too young to understand the respect being paid to the idea of consent and maybe they are...but maybe they aren't. What's so "loony" about erring on the side of more human respect?

because we'll be overrun with kids that choose to sit in shit?

there are those cases. Of course, for every one of those there are half a dozen "preacher's kids" who are drggies, alcoholics, criminals, perverts, or what have you.

it's really not REMOTELY as simple as "parenting technique A always produces A type kids. but that's stating the obvious

KIDS TODAY!!!!!!
(*GRUMBLEGRUMBLE*)

because an unorthodox "expert" in AUSTRALIA said a silly thing?

Damn, Nova/Chang, you've gone from being one kind of nut job to another kind.

No, my child will be trained in behavior and lead to the Lord at home.

Again: You train a dog. You teach a child. If you don't understand the difference, you're doing it wrong.

If that's what what counts for orthodox in Straya, I weep for the country.

typo, keyboard batteries are dying and I missed that one - supposed to read UNorthodox