Poll: Is it OK to put children in cages?

You forgot one.

*I* didn't include or exclude anyone. I took a screenshot of those who answered "Yes".

And it was incomplete.

Must be a misquote. I think you meant to grab the one where I endorsed putting children in cages.

Just because you don't like the way someone answers a question does not mean their answer is what you assume it is. If anyone chose to or not to answer the poll, that doesn't mean it's incomplete. It means they chose not to answer and it is not your responsibility or reward to get to answer for them.

You really think that there's a difference between a prison and your idea of what schools should be like?

Save for the fact that we all know what your rage-master boyfriend is in favor of. You know, the guy who thinks that a minor inconvenience for him is equivalent to carting off people to gas chambers.

Yea, put words in other people’s mouths and suggest the most extreme hyperbolic situation. That’s a great way to convince someone of your point of view. He’s being honest. You’re a lying sack of shit. Ask me which I think is worse.

I'll bite: What's the difference between being locked in a cage and living in a society where someone could mow you down with an AR-15 at any moment? How is one more free than the other?

Because that's what we're talking about here. UA says that the only way we can prevent kids from being brutally murdered while they're in school is to turn that school into something resembling a prison. Mind you, if we harden schools in the manner that UA wants, this means, again, by UA's own admission, that people who want to commit mass murder will then pick a "softer target." So, by his logic, the only solution to this is to harden those softer targets. You know, turning everything else into something that resembles a prison. If somebody can't shoot up a school, then why shouldn't they opt for shooting up a Wendy's that doesn't have the same kind of security that a school does? Or a religious building? Or a park?

I think you need to take a chill pill.

I’m not defending UA or his statements. I’m saying you are being an asshole.

Just keep telling yourself that. Because there's absolutely no fucking way I'd be in a relationship with someone who's spewed the kind of hateful garbage that UA does here on a routine basis. Yet you don't seem to have the least bit of problem with it. If that makes me an asshole, then I'll goddamned wear that as a badge of honor, because I don't care how good the sex is, if it involves fucking someone who is a racist, fascist, asshole, then it ain't worth it. Your mileage, obviously, does vary.

Yes, there's a massive difference.

That doesn't make UA's ideas for how society should be run any less depressingly dystopian, but there is a big difference between his views on school security and those of someone like Paladin on locking up children to punish their parents.

"Something resembling a prison" to the irrational, hysterical mind. It's a few controlled-access doors, for fuck's sake.

If it's a light system then it will be ineffective at keeping aggressors out, and will purely be the type of performance theatre you usually rail against.

You mean that like Jeffery Epstein they don't have to spend 24 hours of the day there? Okay, so that's a plus, I guess. I was in elementary school from '74-'79. I grew up in a spit water town of less than 5K people. I do not have happy memories of my time in elementary. This was well before school shootings and on-site police were a thing. The school was largely open (though they did erect fences around the playgrounds to keep us kids from running away). You ask me to imagine a world where schools are even more locked down, and there are fewer opportunities for kids to get away from the oppressive atmosphere they find in school. Okay, so not 100% identical to prisons, but fucking bleak enough that it's not something that I want to inflict on anyone.

If you say so. I will point out that in the US, even if a parent drops their child off at school, and the kid then bolts from the school, once they're out of sight of their parent, and gets caught for doing this enough times, the parent can go to jail.

Go look up the details of what happened at Sandy Hook, because that's exactly what they had. Didn't stop a fuckstick from committing mass murder.