Poll: Is it OK to put children in cages?

Yeah, this has been pretty disgusting and Trump and co should hang their heads in shame.

Disappointed in seeing several fellow travellers of the trust-not-gub'mint crowd take a solid gold sample of the careless brutality of the state, coat it in sugar, and deep throat it like it was their daddy's dick.

I mean, fuck, all the cries of terror over illusory Obama FEMA camps, yet the moment the next best thing is actually enacted by Trump and it's all whistle away happily.

I do think it is NOT OK to put children in capes! As a father of a once hyper boy, don't go down that road. Next thing you know they are jumping off furniture, out of trees or even the roof, thinking they can fly! Spoiler alert they most certainly cannot fly. If they approach you with a towel and a safety pin, do not indulge them!

Part of the argument for the "turn 'em away at the border" policy is "we're too busy, come back tomorrow" due to lack of immigration judges.

Well, now there's evidence that Session's DOJ has been turning down or slow-walking applications from perfectly-qualified judges they deem too soft on immigrants:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/21/...stration-blocked-her-over-politics/index.html

Migrant children say they've been forcibly drugged, handcuffed, and abused in US government detention

Migrant children in US custody are being involuntarily drugged to the point they cannot walk, stay awake, or maintain their physical or mental health, court filings allege.

A class action lawsuit concerning the government's treatment of unaccompanied migrant children in their care was filed shortly after the government implemented its "zero tolerance" policy towards illegal arrivals in April. But many of the abuses alleged in the filings go back years.

The complaints don't strictly relate to children who have been separated from their parents at the US border, but shed new light on the government's ability to care for these children.

Government contractors, including Texas' Shiloh Treatment Center and Virginia's Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center, have been accused of abusing children and overprescribing psychotropic drugs, with court documents saying one child was taking 18 drugs and 3 meal replacement shakes a day.

These drugs, allegedly prescribed often and without parental consent, can have serious and permanent side effects and many of them, the lawsuit alleges, weren't FDA-approved for use by children.

The experiences described by the children and some of their parents included:

• Not informing children what conditions they apparently had. "I don't remember if I got anything in writing about their decision but I don 't think I had an opportunity to challenge it ... I took nine pills in the morning and seven in the evening. I don't know what medications I was taking; no one ever told me that. I don't know what my diagnosis or illness is."
• Physical force used to administer drugs. "I saw staff throw another youth to the ground, pry his mouth open and force him to take the medicine ... They told me that if I did not take the medicine I could not leave, that the only way I could get out of Shiloh was if I took the pills."
• Teachers initiated tranquilizations. "When [my teacher] would call the medical staff, they would come and give me a shot to tranquilize me. It happened many times. They would give me the shot and then I would start to feel sleepy and heavy, and like I didn't have any strength. I would sleep for three or four hours and then wake up and slowly start to feel my strength return. When the staff did that, they left me in the classroom near the wall to sleep."
• Verbally abused by staff to provoke a response. "Some of the staff at Shiloh would provoke the children there and make us angry intentionally. They made us act violently so then we had to be given shots. The staff would call us names like 'sons of a whore.'"
• Unable to walk normally: "They are requiring [my daughter] to take very powerful medications for anxiety. I have noted that [she] is becoming more nervous, fearful, and she trembles. [She] tells me that she has fallen several times ... because the medications were too powerful and she couldn't walk."
• Unhealthy weight gain, one child put on nearly 100 pounds: "After taking the medication, I was more tired, I felt sad and my eyes got teary ... I began to gain a lot of weight ... In approximately 60 days, I gained 45 pounds."
• Handcuffed for days on end. "At Shenandoah, my room had a mattress, a sink, and a toilet ... I was forced to wear handcuffs on my wrists and shackles on my feet for approximately 10 days in a row."
• Allowed outside for only one hour a day. "I am suffering a lot being in the Yolo Juvenile Detention Center. It is a jail and I sleep in a locked, small jail cell. I can't leave here and have no freedom at all. We only get one hour of time outside each day. I have to live in a small cell with concrete walls."
• Clothes taken away. "Whenever I was put in restriction, they took away my mattress and blanket. They took my clothes away about 8 times."
• Almost suffocated children who were strapped down. "[They] strapped me down all the way, from your feet all the way to your chest, you couldn't really move ... They have total control over you. They also put a bag over your head. It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on."

http://www.businessinsider.com/migr...gged-abused-in-us-government-detention-2018-6

This 1000 times.

We really need an angry rep icon for this shit.

Shameless and disingenuous emotional manipulation by the lamestream media. The newest game on cable TV news is for female on-air talent to shed crocodile tears on cue when whining about "children in cages."

Trump admin officials are absolutely right - the situation is caused by the illegals who cross the border with their brats in tow, knowing that if they get caught they will be separated. Solution - illegals should stop crossing the border with their children in tow. The kids being held are receiving better care and food than they were in the shitholes they came from.

Why don't we start holding Mexico and other Central/South American hellholes responsible for taking care of their citizens, including their children, rather than whining about the fact that America is a sovereign nation with borders along with laws governing who can enter the country and under what conditions they can enter?

If only there were some global commission on Human Rights that you could shame them at.

Shame doesn't work against people with a lesser sense of morality.

We know, or you'd have fucked off years ago.

You Brits are too easy.

Only in bed, dear.

NO, it's NOT OK to put children in cages!

Not in your case:

"It's not OUR fault you brought your children to this country so we could abuse them...."

If you or I were arrested would we be allowed to take our families with us to jail? The fact is they have committed a crime and are being held awaiting criminal prosecution. So should we just not enforce the law? Just let everyone go? Please do tell me your solution.

They wouldn't be sent to tent cities in the desert.

Have you ever heard of prosecutorial discretion? It's what the prosecutors were allowed to use until last May.

I was unaware the families of people who go to US jail are sent to abandoned Wal-Marts.
Is that a thing?
How recent is this thing?
It's news to me.

Ah, okay, it's not just me.
Dinner is just stupid.
Or else suffering from such deep cognitive dissonance, his mental wheels are stuck in the mud.

I'm not confident that Dinner's heard of regular discretion...

In his defense Arkansas history is established by school board vote in order to maintain ignorance and the red starting bubble. Facts are inconvenient when pushing right wing political fantasy and biblical fiction as reality. There for a history teacher is only required to know what people like Roy Moore the child rapist Christian saint say is the truth. Please do not confuse twitler's loyal minions with the truth and facts.

Melania Trump visits a migrant center in Texas, wearing a jacket that reads "I don't care for you."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44570688

Just how stupid are these people?

dinner's wheels are square.

What makes you think she gave a first or second thought to what was written on the jacket?

Where the hell were the Jade Helm screamers when this shit was going on?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nonpro...racts-to-care-for-migrant-children-1529596377

Duh.

Trump was only going to round up brown people, not the god-fearing White Folks that Obama's camps were for.

I don't know where you got a stupid idea like that. I don't know of a single school system in the United States where the school board plays any role in determining what is taught in the classroom. In most states that I know of personally, the State Dept. of Education adopts the curriculum standards. As for Arkansas, they generally follow the lead of California and Texas.

Holy shit.

There was no hidden message because it was AN EXPRESS MESSAGE THAT SHE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT.