Random Star Trek discussion

I love it except one thing: I'd rather he take a character and do 2-3 episode arcs (maybe for a total of 10-12 eps per "season"? (or do single eps but make them 80-90 minutes and maybe 5-6 a season?)

But the professional surely know best which stories it's inviting to write.

After Star Trek: Picard'sgame-changing third season, co-creatorAkiva Goldsman wants to tell stories starring other classic Star Trek characters. Goldsman is a longtime Star Trek fan who's already given new life to two past Star Trek captains.Star Trek: Picardfollows the next chapter in the life of Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation.He also co-created Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, following the USSEnterprise under Capt. Christopher Pike's command during the years before Capt. Kirk's five-year mission. But not every classic character can support an ongoing television series. Goldsman tells SFX magazine that he has a pitch to get around that.

"kind of... I'll call itTales Of The Federation, where you would just do one-offs, right?" he explains. "So you could bring George Takei back for an hour, and do a show about Sulu as an older man, or find Jonathan Archer having now retired from hisEnterpriseand being on Earth, just do these certain really interesting ones."

He continues, "You could grab anybody, from all the shows, because it's really hard to find enough for a series, but there are an endless amount of episodes, as anthology series are finding their way back. They were sort of a staple when I was a boy. A Star Trek-based one of those I think would be super fun."




Star Trek: Picard Creator Has Pitch for Anthology Series Starring Classic Characters (comicbook.com)

Be a delight to watch, but a headache for the keepers of the timeline.

I’ve been saying for years that Star Trek should be an anthology series. I’m pretty sure Fuller suggested that, but Kurtzman ignored it and decided to do his own thing. They could have brought back Sisko this way, but they didn’t.

Star Trek: 91404.

Since 2018, hell. Harve Bennett wanted to do it in the early '90s.

If they’re talking about Starfleet Academy, then yes.

Last I heard Avery Brooks is done with Trek, and acting in general judging by his IMDB page.

The biggest problem with a Star Trek anthology is being able to do it well with a typical Star Trek budget. Building sets for a Federation starship isn't cheap, and normally they spread those costs out over an entire season. You want an anthology series featuring a different ship with a different crew on a different bridge each week? It's gonna cost you a lot.

Or be crappy CGI sets.

I was thinking more like AHS style. They have a Disco set that can be used for two diffent centuries, they have the Enterprise set and the Picard set. All you need now is a TNG era that can double for Ds9 and VOY era set and each season you set it on a different ship and you can crossover seasons. So you really only need like three or four sets that you switch out each season, plus the virtual set they built and locations.

Look how much mileage TNG got out of repainting the Bird Of Prey bridge set, and re-arranging the pieces of the TMP engineering set.

The Reliant and Enterprise used the same bridge set in TWoK.

My point exactly and now they’re doing Starfleet Academy so they should have just done an anthology series like Fuller wanted from the get go.

“Love is a Battlefield” in the original Klingon

I feel like it'd be easier to just make Short Treks into a proper series, animated like What If with the original voice actors whenever available.

Doctor Who has a long history of bringing back actors for audio dramas, this could be Treks version of that.

Christopher Plummer had a hand in the creation of the Klingon language. When the guy who created the language told Plummer how to say “To be or not to be” in Klingon, Plummer looked at him and said, “That sounds like something a pussy would say. Klingons aren’t pussies! Come up with something better!” So the guy had to rethink the language and figure out a different way to say it.

I've read and watched interviews with Marc Okrand, who invented the Klingon language, and it's an interesting story. (I also read his book The Klingon Dictionary once upon a time.)

He created the language for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, but he had to make his creation "backward compatible" with the words spoken in the beginning of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The Klingon dialogue in TMP was created by none other than James Doohan (Scotty!) who chose harsh, guttural sounds that seemed appropriate for the aggressive Klingons.

In choosing aspects of the language, Okrand looked for patterns that are unusual among real languages. For example, the most typical grammatical word ordering in human languages is SVO (subject-verb-object) (e.g., "Mary reads the book"). Klingon is OVS (object-verb-subject) which is very rare for human speakers.

Okrand also recounts that, although he was on set during filming, it was made clear to him that he was not to hold up production with too high a standard for the spoken lines. If there was a good take but the actor mangled his line, Okrand would not ask for another take but would instead update his language to regularize the mistake!

There is, apparently, a whole subculture of people who can actually speak and understand Klingon. Books are written in the language, and plays are performed in it!

I have friends who are fluent in Klingon. This podcast episode has an interview with Okrand about creating the language. https://www.20k.org/episodes/conlang

on klingon home world, batleth stab you!

I expect that The Wall significantly changes all those considerations

Maybe the digital set that Disney built for The Madalorian is nick named The Wall?

If you can explain to me how something can be "in the Mutara Nebula," I'll go down on you!

Pen Pals.
I always hated this one. Looking back it’s not bad. It’s a bad example of TNG’s approach to the Prime Directive which boils down to, “let them die.” That being said, it does give the audience a good idea of what the prime directive is about, it’s not just to protect them, but protects our heroes from getting emotionally involved. I never cared for Wesley until later seasons, but there is some character development with Data and Wesley. People talk shit about the first two seasons of TNG, but they do introduce some cool concepts and philosophical ideas that, granted, are poorly executed, but I get some strong Trek vibes from some of these episodes. I also like that Riker is responsible for Wesley’s education. That goes by the wayside somewhat, but there is definitely some threads that remain throughout the series. More proof that even the “bad” episodes have thing that you can Klingon (pun intended) to.

Don't be silly. GTA didn't allow you to stuff dead hookers in your trunk. Park in a way so that they fall off a cliff after fucking you? Sure.

Chop them up with helicopter blades? Of course.

Put them in a car loaded with explosives and detonate in a crowd after bailing out going 100 mph? Child's play!

But nothing as unseemly as stuffing them into car trunks.

Point of order: I highly doubt Star Trek Beyond lost money. It may have not met expectations at the box office, but between licensing fees, home video, streaming, etc. there's no way it didn't turn a small profit and will continue to provide Paramount with some sort of revenue stream.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Trek-Beyond#tab=summary

That clip always makes me smile.

From Wikipedia:

Star Trek Beyond grossed $158.8 million in the United States and Canada and $184.6 million in other countries for a worldwide total of $343.5 million, against a production budget of $185 million.

I already provided the link to the financials in my post.

The total cost for a film is typically the production budget plus marketing costs, which are almost never publicized but can sometimes be as high the production budget. So even in a worst case scenario, Star Trek Beyond very likely squeaked by with a small profit at the box office.

But again, it will continue to generate money for Paramount for decades so strictly looking at box office isn't a fair assessment.

STB certainly wasn't a hit or a sequel would've been fast-tracked. When all is said and done, it's likely to have been profitable, just not very.

STB was okay; IIRC, I didn't care for it on first viewing but enjoyed it more the second. I've seen it a time or two since. It's probably my least favorite of JJTrek.

I don't want Trek to be The Fast and the Furious in Space. And I'd really prefer we don't get an antagonist driven by revenge or time travel or superweapons as plot elements for at least the next three films.