Random Star Trek discussion

According to Hollywood accounting, in order to make a profit, you have to make three or four times the budget.

No, no, no, they have to copy TWOK and FC without understanding what made those movies so good.

I enjoyed STB the most out of the three so far. It felt like a decent big budget remake of a TOS episode we never got to see.

Follywood accounting is notoriously fucked up shit. Lots of movies that made serious bank never turned a profit, at least if believe the official ledgers. The fact that Follywood continued to turn out sequels of those movies that "lost" money, tells you all you need to know.

DS9 "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges".

Adrienne Barbeau!!!

I thought that voice sounded familiar!
Koval is Silik!

This has clips from all the new series and I don't think I've seen any of them before.

PBS Newshour uses that guy frequently and on the right side of the frame he's also got a Viking shield leaning against the bookcase in the background.

He looks like a slightly more physically fit Ted Cruz.

The Offspring
Legit cry Trek. Poor Lal. Another one that really gets me is Sarek.

one of the most "woke" episodes of that era.
encouraging Lal to choose their own gender presentation? an attempt to include a same sex couple in the back ground?

forced diversity I tells ya!

The difference being good writing and not beating you over the head with it. Discovery puts agenda ahead of character development and story.

a) "good" is subjective. there's still a ton of clunk dialogue

b) it's only "beating you over the head" because it triggers you. "Agenda" is kind of passe as a dog whistle, I thought? We've seen "the gay agenda" with Stamets and Culber-eat, brush teeth, go to work, raise blended family. You create the perception of some nefarious conspiracy for yourself from the characters' developments-themselves often reflections of the actors playing them. If Trek is supposedly about "the human experience"; well, there it sits. Waiting.

A) No it really isn't, you either have a well written episode or you don't. Spock's Brain is considered one of the worst episodes of Star Trek, there's a reason for that.

B) It does not trigger me. You guys are always putting words in people's mouths or are trying to psychoanalyze people as if you really know them and are some kind of expert, you don't and you aren't so stop trying. You do this to UA too, it's dumb. Agenda is when the executive producer (Kurtzman) admits in an interview that he only sees Star Trek as a vehicle to push his agenda and doesn't really care about the franchise or actual story telling and then attacks fans on social media when they call him out on his bullshit. When Stament and Culber actually do their character development, no problem, I'm on record saying that I like that. That's not a "gay agenda" that's just a couple doing couple things that are normal.

Actually, I like McCoy's quippiness in that one.

Look, if you'd just have sex with your sister to get rid of the tension, you'd feel a lot better.

I know, I know, and damned right you are.

Look who's making shit up again, but no, you're not predictable.

Laugh more, you'll live longer.

Oh look Dicky gave my post a facepalm, I didn't see that coming.

Blame the limited options.

yeah, it triggers you. you get super heavy with the deflections and claim that somewhere in the last million or so posts there's one where you weren't whining about agendas and wokeness. You claim the post exists, produce it.

Not sure how Kurtzman's "agenda" to make the trek he wants is relevant to your chicken little bs about the gay/sjw agenda you're usually on about? And then you have the gall to wonder why we all think you're a little bit of a homophobic racist who longs for the myth of mid century america?

also, there's some pretty shit dialogue and settings in either of those TNG eps despite them being cream of the crop. given that they both tie up neatly after coming out of nowhere rather than serve a greater story for the remainder of the series, they arguably do nothing to delver character development so much as prolonged exposition,

Not sure how Alex Kurtzman's supposed claim that he is using Star Trek to further a social agenda is any more or less offensive than Gene Roddenberry using Star Trek to grope women, get laid and make some money.

Don't eat this, you'll live longer

Hm, haven't had that in a helluva while.
I probably wouldn't have had it again if you hadn't said something.
This is all your fault, really.

Sometimes I wonder if you're even younger than Federal Farmer

not too mention the definite improvement over just about any episode that GR got his name on.

seriously, the franchise got better after he died. How many times was it said during the 90s "we couldn't have done this" under him when talking about anything contemporaneous or relevant?

Fan film teaser. The effects look pretty good, and the use of TWoK music is pretty much on point (though as they fade to black, I kept wanting to hear the bosun's whistle).

There's always nuggets to find in each episode, but overall, that episode is just not that good. "Brain, what is brain?"