Random Star Trek discussion

Gates does speak on-camera in "The Pegasus."

Just now on ENT....

T'Pol- (To Trip) you have complained to the captain that you don't get to see as many alien cultures as you like...and you haven't been to Vulcan...

200 years later...

Mariner- No, stupid Vulcan doesn't count!

Is she talking to Hoshi?

Oh, shit!
Jack Donner was the Vulcan priest that marries T'Pol and her cuck-hubby!
So he did two ENTs!

Indeed!

Finally finished season 2 of discovery. Should I watch Season 3? I've heard from people that it is really bad.

I'm not going to tell you what to do, but IMO, season 3 is a hot mess. There's very little redeeming qualities.

I assume that's the episode where Trip fixes the dude's microwave or something. I love that episode. This is why I don't understand the hate for Enterprise, there's some really good stuff there, even in the shitty episodes.

I LIKE CORN BUT I'M NOT DIGGING THROUGH SHIT JUST TO GET SOME

Yeah, but you'll dig through shit for mushrooms.

Don't fool yourself into thinking there are mushrooms in your posts.

He's digging for stuff to negrep. That's far more fertile soil.

I like Season 3 the best. As far as I'm concerned, freeing themselves of the need to play inside the existing continuity as a prequel and opening up the exploration of a totally new time frame for Trek canon is the best decision they could have made.

There were elements of Three that were just fine, but the way they wrapped up the finale was unsatisfying, IMHO. Tig Notaro has said that this was because COVID screwed up the shooting schedule and they had to rush/rework things in order to get it done before everything got locked down.

I liked it, but not the best.
I think 2 has been the best so far.
I rank 'em, 2, 3, 1

Two annoyed me with how convoluted the arc's premise got.

I just want to explore interesting ideas through realistic, relatable characters and reasonably well-written stories. I don't need the producers self-consciously trying to impress me with all their timey-wimey cleverness.

That didn't bug me.
If I can handle "Memento" I can deal with any time-origami Trek can throw at me.

DS9's "Shakaar" is on.

The title character, Shakaar, is Duncan Regehr, who was the incestual fuck-ghost in the infamous "Sub Rosa" and he was also Dracula in "Monster Squad" and 90's TV Zorro.

ENT's "Deadelous" is on.

I'm a transporter junkie, I'd watch a whole prequel show just about Emory Erickson.

No...I wouldn't be content to watch, I'd have to write it.

I liked that episode immediately because I've loved Bill Cobbs since I first saw him in That Thing You Do.

ENT should have built up to transporters.

I prefer the idea from the Lives of Dax anthology that it was a group of scientists from different species working together pre-Federation that made transporters a reality.

Side tangent, but I remember this episode getting way blasted by fans when it first aired, which I found extremely bizarre. It was heads and shoulders better than most of season 2 and it was (for me, at least) one of the few times in Season 4 that ENT was doing a story that was about Enterprise and not Manny Coto's TOS origin fanfic.

It's more or less the same plot as a previous Neelix episode but with an Enterprise skin overtop, I imagine that inspired much of the backlash.

Off the top of my head, I can't imagine what episode of VOY this was supposedly cribbing from. Many just found it boring and uninspired. I found it a nice breather from the mini arcs.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Jetrel_(episode)

Guest star has ulterior motives, wants to use transporter technology to save someone long dead.

Kinda stretching.
Jetrel was about the guilt of a war criminal, Emory just lost his son.
May as well say "Mirror Mirror" and "The Enemy Within" were the same episode because the transporter produced an evil Kirk in both cases.

I never even watched the Enterprise episode, but I kept up to date on plots and stuff back in the day. I'm of the understanding that the basic story beats are similar enough.

-Scientist boards the ship under false pretenses
-He's full of regrets about some death/deaths he caused in the past
-He want to use the transporter to bring the person/people he killed back to life
-It doesn't work
-Everyone is sad

*Hand wave*

"Facets" is on!

This is the one to study for clues to how they might re-body Grey on Discovery!

Yep, Kurzon totally could have stayed in Odo forever.
Grey could be re-bodied into a blank clone, and bada-bing.