I don’t care what your (specifically you) party affiliation is. The first two statements said you agree with Lanz and Lanz says RvW will not be overturned.
They why bring it up? Obviously you cared enough to mention it. It's not my fault you fly off the handle and regurgitate talking points without first realizing which poster you are replying to. And????? If you disagree fine, but don't lump me in with a group of people that anyone with a lick of common sense would know that I'm not a part of . And you know what I've been hearing for 20 years? ROE VS WADE IS ABOUT TO BE OVERTURNED!!!! Goes out in every mailer every election cycle in order to scare or motivate a base. Also very helpful in bringing in small donations from people who really should be saving that money for essentials. Been happening ever since Reagan. Yet Roe hasn't changed and it's doubtful that it ever will. But by all means, keep jumping for that line like a good little sheep.
More accurately, you have been hearing from people on the right that they were trying to overturn Roe, and people on the left that people on the right were trying to overturn Roe. Because in fact people on the right have been trying to overturn Roe. And you have had politicians, including Trump, campaigning on the notion that they were going to nominate judges/justices dedicated to overturning Roe. (While sometimes walking back that sort of thing or talking in code language about choosing judges that are "strict constructionists" or the like.) https://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/19/tru...ces-to-overturn-roe-v-wade-abortion-case.html The only reason Roe hasn't been overturned is because there has not been a clear anti-Roe majority until now.
Remember kids, it's only violence when it's done with a fist or a brick. Pass a law or issue a ruling that kills or harms people and you're still a respectable citizen.
And it was. In Texas. It may not have the stamp “Roe V Wade is overturned” but that is the entirety of that law. That’s the point. If that makes you angry, fuck off. It’s the truth. And who made that happen? Republicans. So fuck off with your faux outrage.
I should've specified the liberal 3rd partiers who claimed their moral compass couldn't stand the thought of HRC, not ones like yourselves who never made such a claim. Even still, I wish you a very fuck you too
Don't even have to be trans. If a married man tells his mistress to get an abortion, does he go to prison?
Under the Texas law, anyone can sue someone for aiding and abetting in an abortion. So hypothetically (and, admittedly, without my having closely read the law or legal analysis of it), 1. Someone can sue the man who asked for the woman to seek an abortion and win. guaranteeing a minimum of $10k plus attorneys' fees. 2. The man who asks for the woman to get an abortion can turn around and sue the woman for getting the abortion and win, entitling him to at least $10,000 k but attorney's fees. I guess hypothetically she could counter-sue him for prompting her to get the abortion. 3. There is presumably nothing stopping a person from seeing that a suit has been filed against Jane Doe or Planned Parenthood and then filing a second, third, 100th lawsuit against those entities for the same incident(s), meaning that any one suit could result in multiple lines of legal jeopardy. 4. There is no check for people who might bring these lawsuits. If they lose, say because they are flat-out wrong, or because an abortion did happen but it was before a heartbeat could be detected, or it was after but met the narrow exception of necessary for the health of the mother, the woman/abortion provider does not get to recover legal costs or get to tax the plaintiff for being dragged into court. 5. By definition, the lawsuit will allow the plaintiff to scrutinize sensitive issues about sexual and medical histories, as well as financial records of people and institutions. ETA: I've seen tweets that suggest that the woman seeking an abortion cannot be sued under this law. I am not sure how the law would have been written to suggest that the person who seeks the abortion is somehow outside "aiding and abetting" it happening.
Meh. The Texas abortion law is draconian in the extreme and needs to be struck down, but lets not pretend that there aren't men in prison for failing to pay child support for children they didn't want to have. Indeed, courts have ruled that the children don't need to actually even be yours if you at one point acted in a manner that you believed they were.
Women get abortions because men like to hit and run. This isn't about child support. It's about responsibility.
This law is at least as draconian as the original law struck down in Roe v Wade. It does not account for victims of rape and incest, and provides a bounty system for individual citizens to target women. Simply not staying it while it is being decided means that abortion providers are targeted, and goes against every single precedent before the Bench in the last 50 years on this topic. Extremist Republicans doing extremism, again.
Who the fuck cares what an insane billionaire *man* thinks about the Texas law? If he cared, he'd be spending that money to help alleviate social problems, not adding to them as he is wont to do.
ok. I'll give you that. But, I'm sure the CEOs of the other three also approve of the law. Yet, we don't hear their opinions? What about the CEO of Nissan? I just bought another. What does he think? and yes, I'm more than certain the CEO of Nissan is a man. If not, prove me wrong.
The heads of the Big Three didn't make an announcement about moving all their business HQs to Texas like Musk did. And while the CEO of Nissan might be a man, the CEO of GM is a woman named Mary Barra.
So ..., if I'm shopping for a car and find out right after this law, Tesla moves it's headquarters to Texas, I'm gonna assume Tesla approves the law. I didn't buy a GM.
Kill him. I have zero empathy or understanding for this guy. I'd sooner ensure an ant lives than this guy. Fuck him and kill him. His kind need to fucking die.
Conservative media has been awash in declarations that 2022 will be a “bloodbath” or a “beatdown” for the Democrats. But if your out of control Supreme Court pushes it too far to the right there will be plenty of motivation on the left.
Maybe, but as those here have been pointing out, the Democrats have beaten the "they'll overturn RvW" drum so often you would have thought that, if it was effective, we wouldn't have reached this point. Politico isn't sure this will translate to Dem turnout: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/02/abortion-supreme-court-backlash-democrats-509241
If Democrats in Texas actually cared, they would have voted before now. I doubt this will make a dent.
