This seems like an odd thing to do, although the text does state that cheap, plentiful 5.45x39mm ammo is the motivation... Smith&Wesson 5.45x39mm AR Rifle They're also selling an upper in the same caliber.
Daddy, what's cheap ammo? This does make sense, seeing as with the rearming of the Iraqi and Afghani army, the world's two main military calibers are... not in good supply. I wonder if there is a good supply of non-corrosive Russian ammo in this calibre?
Strange. I didn't know that 5.45x39 was so plentiful. It's one of the reasons I've never bought an AK-74 clone.
On top of it apparently the feds are going to outlaw importation of suprlus 5.45mm. Maybe Im reading this thread wrong, but it looks like the availability to US consumers is going to disappear real soon
Cause they can. It's not like the BATFE isn't known for changing the rules depending on what they feel like on any given day.
Meh... When it comes to cross dressing, give me an 5.56 AK47 (actually an R4) upgraded and w/rails. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_M21 That's my current, 'weird' gun I want. I'd still take a Bushmaster ACR over anything.... ... including letting your mother live.
Unless they know something you don't know... While this doesn't seem a particularly great idea to me, either, I have seen 5.45x39mm ammo around here for cheap.
For me it has gone up from Free to Free.99 Last time I got stuck on Ammo Detail I sent my friend a pic of over 8K rounds all in stacks of 80.
[action=Ramen]grabs a handle of reloaded .223 and throws it into the air like newly found pirate treasure. [/action] Maybe I'm just irrational, but I've always been disinterested in firearms using an atypical caliber.
Bingo. At WalMart, what's the price of 100 rounds .38Special versus the price of .32ACP? Oh, damn. WalMart doesn't carry .32ACP. Off to the high priced gun store. At WalMart, what's the price of 100 rounds of .223 versus the price of .22-250? Oh, damn. WalMart doesn't carry .22-250. Off to the high priced gun store. Two things: #1 - Availability lowers price. #2 - In the event of Zombie attack, what can I grab in bulk at an abandoned WalMart if I need to resupply?
I'm looking at the Rec Center price list and 10mm Hydra-Shok is $16 for 20 whereas 9mm Hydra-Shok is $13.70. Yeah, there is a difference, but doesn't seem that big to me.
You guys can talk all you want about your fancy-dan military calibers. But believe you me, when the Zombie Wars come, you'll be damned sorry you didn't stock up on good ol' reliable and plentiful .30-40 Krag, 16 gauge, and .455 Webley!
Plentiful ammo is one thing, but when your back's up against the wall and some zombie's gonna eat your brain, you'll gladly trade that dime-a-dozen .45 ACP for the confidence that radiates from a good quality 8x22mm Nambu! Kijiro Nambu was almost the John Browning of Japan, after all...
You're looking at 20 rounds. I buy in denominations of 100 or more (usually 500 or 1,000) and those duckies add up. I can buy a case of 180gr 10mm Hydra-Shok for $307. I can buy a case of 115gr +P+ 9mm Federal Classic* for $205. On a budget, things like that are important. Now, am I always right? No. Do I know everything? No. Am I stuck in my ways? Yes. Do my opinions have a firm rooting in cost and practicality versus lethality and tactics? Yes. * - That cartridge is the only 9mm cartridge I'll bet my life on. It's a proven man stopper. In fact, it has 270fps more velocity and 8ft lbs more energy than the 10mm cartridge. The 10mm is just, of course, 1mm bigger. It's really an age old debate. For instance, what's the "better" cartridge? A 405gr .45-70 cartridge or a 165gr .308Win cartridge? Out of a box, the .308Win cartridge is faster and carries more energy. But, the .45-70 cartridge is gonna put a damn sight bigger hole in the target.
I'm just going by the price list at the Rec Center, and there it's not much difference. For 100 rounds of Hydra-Shok* it comes out to: 380Auto- $47.50 9mm - $68.50 .40S&W - $91.25 .45ACP - $91.25 .38SPL - $66.25 357Mag - $91.25 10mm - $80.00 44Mag - $91.50 *I'm just multiplying the price by 5. I have no idea what their bulk sales are or if they even do bulk sales.
About the same as the difference between $800 and 912.50. As I originally said, the 10mm doesn't seem outrageous in comparison when compared with other rounds.
At your prices, maybe. At my prices, most definitely. I can buy a case of any handgun ammunition they stock (sans 10mm, .41 Mag, and .44 Mag) in the $200-220 range. 10mm, .41 Mag, and .44 Mag run $300-350. That's why I don't have a 10mm or .41Mag and I hand load my .44Mag rounds which gets the price down.
