Sandusky Guilty

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  1. sandbagger

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  2. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    [14thDoctor]He can't help his attraction[/14thDoctor]
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  3. Ten Lubak

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    So in jail is he gonna be in protective custody or gen pop?

    If it's the latter, I give his butthole 3 weeks.
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  5. Clyde

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    Most of us seem to have a biological imperative to kill pedophiles - you gotta love nature's checks + balances.
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  7. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    442 years in prison.

    No, they should just take him out back and shoot him, like any other rabid dog.

    Let the law suits against Penn State begin. They are definitely culpable.
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  8. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    442 years. It's not like he got life...
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    Well, he can't!

    People keep repeating that and mocking it like it's being said to excuse the acting out on it.

    That is not the case. It just needs to be recognized these people have an illness that needs dealing with, instead of ignoring it until we have incidents like Penn State.

    Just flippantly wanting to kill the perpetrators doesn't do a damn thing to protect the children. That philosophy always results in victims being abused before something is done.

    Helping them is the chance of stopping it before a child is fucked up for life.
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  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    At his age, with that gut, he's already a walking coronary, and the stressors of his new lifestyle will solve the state's problem before too long.

    Roger that.
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    Supposedly, Penn State's plan was to "fire" JoPa, and then give him an "honorary" position with pay, but when they called JoPa, he hung up before they got to the point about the "honorary" position. So, IMHO, the football department at Penn needs to be bankrupted and banned from all athletic competition for at least a decade.
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  12. Clyde

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    Exactly. It is no excuse. Understanding the motivation behind unacceptable behavior does nothing to justify said behavior.

    I haven't sympathy for child molesters, even if they can't help it.
  13. Tamar Garish

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    Have you no sympathy for them before they act on it?

    If we can only change some perceptions and encourage people with the urges to seek help and others to not vilify them for doing so, maybe a day would come where no kids were victimized this way.
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  14. Clyde

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    I have empathy for the struggles everyone faces.

    Ideally that would be great! An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and whatnot. Yet let's look at our history, for millennia we've frowned upon theft and murder, but (regardless of reason) folks are still killing and stealing from other folks.

    Criminals earn their vilification and child molesters are no exception.

    Why you and others are championing the plight of child molesters is beyond me. It's pure idiocy from the get go. Though I do realize it may well be nothing more than trolling.
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  15. Shirogayne

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    Going by that example, a man who says he feel murderous rage isn't going to be turned into the police for a crime he hasn't committed yet if he seeks help for said murderous feelings.

    I get where you're coming from, because I remember being all :wtf: :shock: the first time I saw a thread like this; and maybe being here for so long as desensitized me a bit, but I don't think Tamar or anyone is championing the plight of child molesters so much as pointing out a flaw in our cultural thinking of :mob: "Kill them all!" mentality--and not just on this issue, but many others as well where intervention would work way better than going for revenge afterwards.

    Diddle a kid? Sure, by all means, throw the book at the summabitch and cut his nuts off. Having a mental illness excuses nothing.

    But if there's a way to prevent kids from harm beforehand, then why not try and go for that? Doing it the way we have in place now, the state lets half the fuckers out on parole to squeeze more potheads into their cells anyway. And even if justice is swift and the guy is locked up for the rest of his natural life, the kid is still stuck with the mental damage. :shrug:
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  16. Clyde

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    No one will argue against this sentiment. :)
  17. Demiurge

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    Because the way its being requested to do so, and the only way the would be kiddie rapists feel 'safe' to talk about their urges, is to make sure its completely anonymous.

    So if your day care provider made a call saying the he wanted to do unspeakable things to the children, it would have to remain confidential.

    But you know what? If someone speaks to their therapist about an overwhelming desire to murder their coworker, the therapist is legally bound to notify the authorities. They want MORE protections for their problem, not less.

    So no, I don't support that. If you have overwhelming urges to rape kids, you don't get a free pass until you actually act on the desire. You tell that to someone in the medical community, you should not be allowed to work with children, period.

    Especially now that more evidence is coming to light that its a biological imperative, not a psychological issue.
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  18. Tamar Garish

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    I never said it should be anonymous. :no:

    I am talking about wanting a cultural shift, where society acts in a more compassionate manner. Instead of treating the person with a mental illness like a monster even before they act on it, to treat them like human beings that need help and to get them that help in order to try and stop the horrific abuse before it starts.

    I want seeking help to not result in someone's life being ruined for admitting a problem. As long as that keeps happening, pedophiles will keep hiding and will eventually hurt a kid.
  19. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    You must be living in some kind of fucking illusion if you think that a pedophile seeking help won't result in his life being ruined. It doesn't matter how compassionate people are.


    I get the whole 'they can't control themselves' crap, but I don't have much sympathy for someone that doesn't seek help when he knows he has a problem. Sandusky was leading a normal life outside of the child molesting, so he obviously was capable of getting help.

    So as far as I'm concerned, take him out back and put two in his head. He's not worth spending money on housing him in prison.
  20. Talkahuano

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    I think this thread needs more happy. 45 counts! He's gone forever!

    :fireworks :fireworks :fireworks
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    Not to split hairs here, but "a" mental illness like schizophrenia, depression, etc. is one thing. But the particular illness of pedophilia is a whole different thing.
  22. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Exactly.

    The former I don't think you realize what you're doing, so you basically have to be forced into getting help. The latter on the other hand is just a sick fetish that most people KNOW that they're doing, and that it IS wrong. There is a reason they try to get it private.
  23. Uncle Albert

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    Identify->incarcerate for life->done. :bailey:

    What is this thing you call 'sympathy'? :unsure:
  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So Gubmint Interference = Good.

    Philip K. Dick would have loved this thread.
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    As long as it's government interfering in one of it's proper roles- in this case, the protection of others from force and fraud. :shrug:

    Not sure what you're trying to troll here, but it's your standard case of fail.
  26. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    UA's advocating locking 'em up solely for having the proclivity, not for acting on it.
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    and thus UA lives another day of freedom! :techman:
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    Funny how, when someone fails to indulge you with a lengthy essay on how a philosophy should be applied to individual cases, they're a mindless ideologue, trying to shoehorn every situation into one-size-fits all rhetoric, but when they do attempt to define a standard that requires some nuancing, suddenly they're trying to set rules that only apply when they want them to.

    Riotously funny. Fucking hilarious. :brood:

    (this is where you play innocent, demand a link, and pretend nobody can smell your bullshit)

    Oh, and..

    You might not want to assume I something innocent and benign leading up to "identify."
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  29. Black Dove

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    If you can weed them out and catch them beforehand, power to you. But in most cases no one has any idea that these monsters are out there until they strike.

    And when they do, they need to be killed immediately and with extreme prejudice. That way we ensure that they will never, EVER harm another child.
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    NBC strikes again.