Scary stuff from American universities

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  1. Tererune

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    I would imagine there are not a lot of black people up your way so yes they exist all around here in the US. They sometimes chant and have all sorts of handshakes and dances that they do. You might see a whole bunch of them in a large group. Don't be afraid if you are here and happen to come across a black marching band or dance group. Better you should stay in Sweden because you might offend with your skittish fears of the blacks.
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  2. Jan Jansen

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  3. Tererune

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    Yeah that is about all you got. You are whining about me being a master troll while your ignorant racist ass barely crawls it's way out of simian to be human. To be scared of black people chanting. You should be ashamed.
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    Let me reassure you. You have nothing to worry about, even though American universities are the direct descendants of the chief philosopher of the Nazi party, Martin Heidegger, who went to his grave believing in the truth, might and righteousness of the Nazi party. He was crucial to the '68 student movement which took over our universities. The idiotic idea that we can't judge other cultures, cultural relativism, comes directly from him and was an assertion that the allies have no moral position to judge the Nazis program because they haven't marched in Nazi boots. This got combined with the Nazi conviction that they were battling to advance all of humanity through thought policing and education or re-education as necessary.

    Only people as morally committed and profoundly believing as a social justice warrior can hope to match the fanaticism of Nazis. Only such people could retain such a laser-like focus on race in a country where race is often a guess.

    One of the reasons Europe banned everything to do with Nazism is that their message and methods were genius and every collectivist thinker could fall for them. They play off tribal logic which we're programmed to respond to through tens of thousands of years of tribal warfare. It's the simple idea of spreading your tribe's superior genes by slaughtering the inferior genes of the tribes around you.
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  5. Jan Jansen

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    @gturner That's.... interesting. Poor old Heidegger, the root of all evil. I want what you are smoking, dude... :jan:
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    This thread went from interesting, to straight stupid awfully fast. :lol:
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    Look up Martin Heidegger. He wrote "Being and Time" which was fundamental to the '68 French student movement, which spawned so much that is still required studies.

    Prospect Magazine article.

    You need to read that, because the controversy is real and important.

    The idea that people of one culture cannot judge another culture camee from a culture that realized it was about to face a profoundly negative judgment. So the Nazi philosopher jumped up and screamed "Foul! Cultures can't judge each other!" And then he wrote a whole bunch of things that left bought hook, line, and sinker.
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    sweet mother-of-god.........we need a "where are they now?" story on these kids. Guarantee at least a couple of them now have numbers instead of names for the nest few years. :jayzus: BTW do you a subtitles version? I literally couldn't understand a word from any kids, except for "Obama".
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    The article is behind a paywall.

    Heidegger may have been a more controversial figure than many have wanted to believe, but blaming him for Nazism AND the student movement of the late Sixties AND the SJW of today is a little bit rich and simplistic and too much of an honor. And even if you were right (which you are not), the student movement was not a bad thing in its entirety. The whole "revolutionary" movement of 1968 and the following years made society more liberal and brought lots of civil rights. Some conservatives really want to live in the 50ies again... As if life was great back then for the average dude. No thanks! :rolleyes:
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    Something people have said about student groups and activities for decades. Nothing to see here, really, although some reactions to the video are mildly amusing.
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    Ah, I see the issue. I only watched a brief bit of the video, but chants like this in the US do not generally represent group think. They are used as a way to illustrate solidarity of purpose, and to generate enthusiasm among the participants. You noted yourself that you might do something like this at a football match. It's no different here.
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  13. Jan Jansen

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    So in other words, these are just kids being kids? I feel relieved! :) Although it's still a scary thing, these boys and girls being mostly adults and part of the coming elite... ;) They act like deeply disturbed 12-year olds! :lol:
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    Ah, a cultural thing in the end. Really, I am glad to hear this. But don't try this stuff around here, kids... Many people will freak out! :lol:
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    I think they do that at car dealerships before they open in the morning too.
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    "Es ist unsere Pflicht zu kämpfen, es ist unsere Pflicht zu siegen!" Göbbels, Nazi Germany, 1939.

    "Wir haben nichts zu verlieren ausser unsere Ketten!" Communist Manifesto, good old Marx.

    This "chant" sounds really weird in German, not harmless at all. Like fascist propaganda. Ok, I'll let go of this, the whole fuss was about these sentences anyway. Don't try this around here, dear American freedom fighters. Someone may call a doctor, or even worse, think you are dangerous militants. However, context matters, and big words like these don't mean the same to Americans.
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    "It is our duty to fight, it is our duty to win, we have nothing to lose, but our chains.":zombie:

    Welcome to liberal universities, they've been indoctrinating our youth for years.
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    You can thank turdrun for that.
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  21. Tuttle

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    Yes, well, the pampered and plump, the entitled and well dressed oppressed are a very sympathetic cause.

    Almost as worthy and sympathetic a cause as millionaires against further taxes, KKK against rising bleach prices, or the lawyers against the proliferation of shark jokes.
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    No, dummy, you're the one that posted the vid, which is infused with the modern 'dialogue' in the US about race. You remaining oblivious of that fact despite liet's reply or the turd's (et alia) doesn't grant liberty to be so erroneous in your critique.
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    Perhaps if you listened to more Nazi propaganda and Hitler speeches you'd catch the similarities. There are some sections in this that are pretty close.

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    Wrt it being about race or not... I just googled the chant and found links claiming it was made by a BLM protester and that it was used at BLM protests. That seems to be related to race simply because race is at the center of that protest movement.
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    OK, I just read the YouTube comments, and ... for fuck's sake.

    Look, I'm not big on call-and-response or group recitations. But the people who are railing about the students being "cult-like" ... seriously, have they never been to a church service? I can't claim to be an expert on what every denomination does, but I've been to Methodist, Lutheran and Episcopal services, and every single one has included some kind of prayer recited by the congregation in unison. Are these people planning to flip their lids over that, too?
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    I am always happy to denounce irrational groups like religious congregations. :)
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    OTOH, America does encourage its schoolchildren to recite a pledge of allegiance to the flag. That is admittedly rather creepy.
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    I don't think they do that (pledge of allegiance) anymore. My kids graduated HS in 2008 and 2010 and they never mentioned any pledge of allegiance. That's some "old school" shit like I did back in the 60's & 70's.
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    It's still done at the schools my kids attend.
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