Should this guy be tortured...

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  1. TheMurph

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    The world if full of gray, sometimes the moral thing to do is not the ethical thing to do. I don't believe torture should ever be a state sanctioned thing. However in a cause such as this, I would not bat an eye at taking extreme measures for the sake of a child. I would do so and accept consequences if there were any, but if I was on the other side and asked to judge a person who used torture in this case he would be innocent in my book.
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    Beck Monarchist, Far-Right Nationalist

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    Which is a big piece of sanctified garbage IMHO.
  3. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    And in the US, that confession and any and all evidence gained from that confession is now inadmissible in court. So you've got all the proof in the world and no case. The guy goes free.

    In the broader sense, what you see on Law & Order and CSI isn't real. These shows will give you fingerprint matches in seconds. The current backlog for FBI finger print searches is two years. Of course, also unlike those shows, it's not that bad because our current case load means an arrest I made today will finally go to trial in two years.

    Edit: If you have a big and important case, they may move the case up. The last murder I worked happened to be a double murder. It only took that case 18 months to go to trial.
  4. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    I'd waterboard him.
  5. TheMurph

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    I've always wondered why justice moves at a snails pace. Lack of personnel?
  6. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Pretty much. On our end, our Patrol Division writes 1,700-2,000 I&O's per week and every single one of those I&O's has to cross a Detective's desk. So, our Detectives average 40-60 new cases per Detective per week. They simply don't have time to track down everything like you see on TV and they definately don't have the money.

    At the DA's office, it becomes an even bigger nightmare. If you factor in every agency in the county making arrests, that means the DA's office gets to work 80-100 new cases each day.

    The courts operate on a six week rotating schedule and if you do the math and figure that only 10% of the DA's cases actually go to trial, you're looking at 420 new cases every six weeks. Now, during the Trial Week of that rotating schedule you may get...100 cases off the books. That leaves 320 that have to be moved back. You do that over the course of years and you can see how the backlog develops.

    That's why we take guys off the street. You can retire after 25 years. If your intent is to retire at 25, they'll take you of the street and stick you at a desk where you can't make any arrests for your last two years. They don't want you to have to come back after you retire.

    Hell, I left the Sheriff's Department and went to a Municipal Police Department almost three years ago and I'm still on the hook for cases I worked at the SD. They'll subpoena me about three weeks before Trial Week and I'll go down to the DA's office and go over all the old notes.
  7. Captain J

    Captain J 16" Gunner

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    Anyone find it interesting that 14th Twit excuses the rape of children but protests against the attempt to find a child whose been kidnapped. :shrug: I guess it fits his psych profile.
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Well this story got a little rosier.


    The mother has now been arrested on charges of Human Trafficking and Child Abuse Relating to Prostitution.

    Great. Turns out this kids hell isn't anything new. :jayzus:
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  9. Zombie

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    And supposedly they have a good tip on finding the girl. Hopefully they will find her.
  10. Captain J

    Captain J 16" Gunner

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    The tip is supposedly where her body was dumped. :(
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  12. Zombie

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    Fox News is reporting they found her. Dead. :(
  13. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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  14. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    :(

    This isn't surprising though - we live in a society that sanctions murder of the unborn.
  15. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I am willing to bet you $100 that you can not find any statistical link between abortion rates and crimes such as this one.
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