So I keep hearing about the homelessness and drugs in San Fran...

Woah. Gallatin? I'm from Gallatin.

Your definition is so extreme as to be pointless. They found a stone age skeleton in a cave, mapped his dna and then found a Y chromosome match (male descendent) in the closest village. So you can pretend all you want but by definition most are not immigrants by any reasonable definition.

So 10 people? You said the syringes were up to your shins. You said this was for miles. You really need to stop your bullshit. If ten people can solve your problem, you just have normal city litter you fucking boob. Your own evidence betrays you. I know streets in NY that could not be cleaned up by just ten people. This is what a city is you dumbshit. Maybe you have to move the tents somewhere, but if this news report is showing what you have got, you are fucked in the head.

Please go die in a fire with your racist bullshit.

Also, went to that street view and maybe it's just me but it doesnt look much worse than Nashville if were being honest.

Been here 20 years.

Holy cow. That's nuts. And weve both been posting here since 2007...how did I not know this?

That's a sign of you ageing dude, every generation sees the idiocy of the next precisely because they're yet to learn from their mistakes

My honest read is that the root problem isn't what SF is doing wrong so much as what it's doing right but in isolation. UH works when it's exactly that, universal, not when it's implemented piecemeal on a geographic basis. It's all or nothing else you've simply created a migratory homeless problem.

You said yourself that a major portion of your homelessness problem stems from transient homelessness, people are literally moving there to take advantage of the services on offer. For me that's not a question of SF doing too much, but their "home" cities failing to shoulder their share of the burden.

Agreed on the needle exchanges completely, though, they're supposed to be exchanges not hand outs. Whilst that's never going to be perfect there are ways of getting closer to the ideal.

Also housing.....

Just spent three years living in L.A.

There are large swaths of it that are like Third World countries.

Despite the homes and businesses in my neighborhood being fairly nice, the area is awash in very unsavory and unsanitary people, and I wouldn't consider the streets safe to walk at night. The local convenience store never fails to have wretches loitering outside for a handout. The sidewalks in the freeway overpass a block from me are congested with a tent city and piles of garbage.

It was fine in my gated apartment complex, and I just drive through the rest. But L.A. (a large part of it, anyway) is a shithole.

No, even if we look at much more recent history our population has constantly been in flux through waves of immigration.

It frequently gets used as a way to stoke political outrage but the fact is we are much stronger for it.

The trash problem, the rat infestation, and the typhus outbreak.

I can't think of a city I've ever been in which doesn't boast similar sights and I've travelled a lot.

Of course the question isn't just of what but how many...

This is the "daypark" under a downtown bridge where I live now. Its usually more crowded when I come through.

Ok, I can honestly say I don't see sights like that here.

In the sunny socialist UK...

Theres usually at least 100 people lining the streets with chairs and tints. I say that but its probably more. Several blocks of just people elbow to elbow.

Typhus is even infecting workers at city hall now because of all the rats.

Jesus that's horrifying.

Now the question is, how long before it starts spreading over the US?

If you vote for enablers this is what you will get. Sadly, the Dems have gone completely crazy and are afraid of whipped up Twitter mobs by activists, which is insane as you are really only talking about a fringe of a fringe.

L.A.’s fashion district and produce district are all third world immigrants, large numbers are illegal immigrants, many running their own small unlicensed businesses which probably are off the books paying no taxes. These problems always appear in areas where 3rd worlders form the majority. They bring their third world habits with them which means thrown mountains of garbage every where like they did in Guatemala and Mogadishu. This video is the result.

So far Garcetti and the activists only clean up the mess when the media makes an issue out of it but they never actually fine or punish the illegal dumpers because the activists claim that would be “racist” to force our standards upon them. This is clearly insane and everyone needs to be forced to follow basic sanitation rules.

Probably because I don’t talk about where I live too much.

And mass transit use is cratering because no one wants to ride a rolling insane asylum for of homeless people with lice who shit and pissed themselves. So much for the states big mass transit push to combat climate change.

Did you watch that? I stopped at 3 minutes. Ridership is down but not due to the cleanliness of the vehicles.

It's due to American selfishness and stupidity.

Many of them are migranting for freebies. SF even gives all the homeless monthly cash allowances in addition to feeding them all and giving them free healthcare. This is on top of their $190 a month in food stamps and regular general relief welfare. In the last year SF raised its homeless budget from $300 million to $650 million per year (remember the city is only 400,000 people) but the problem went up 50% as the migrants flooded in for free shit. It doesn’t work. NYC’s public housing wait has remained the same for 80 years because when you offer people free stuff they show up in droves and you will NEVER be able to build enough. Thus why you have to draw a line some where.

Next up the city is absolutely insane in its bloat and inefficiency. I have no numbers on SF but in LA it was recently found the city was spending $750,000 per unit on homeless housing with the average unit being a 500 square foot studio apartment. You could buy them a 4bed/2.5 bath single family home for that much. Their entire system is just pigs feeding at the trough of corruption, waste, fraud, and abuse.

Ridership is up in Seattle.

If you watched the report ridership on new rail lines in LA sees a very slight bump for a year or two but older rail lines have been declining. The biggest drops 25% or more have been on bus lines as they cost too much, take to long, are inconvenient, and usually packed with insane and dirty homeless people who see it as their mobile air conditioned day center. Most are don’t pay their faire because the idiot mayor claimed most people using the bus are nonwhite and it was some how racist to enforce rules about not paying bus fees.

The insanity continues.

I expect a modest short term bump in ridership here in San Diego when the new blue line is complete (literally the 26 years late and at 15 times the original budget) but it probably won’t last even though it goes to a major university. The reason being it follows the coast where students can’t afford to live, NIMBYs have successfully block upzoning the density even near the new stations (the plan calls for that to happen saying there won’t be enough riders unless that happens but wealthy NIMBYs all said no) and the moment the line starts running homeless will start appearing in La Jolla and University City which will go over like a lead balloon.

Decades of progressive policies in place in all of these cities has made even some progressives question the dogma. Incidentally, these cities (faced with excessive rats and bubonic plague) are among the wealthiest on the planet, and contain some of the greatest disparity of wealth. A lack of devoting resources has *never* been the problem, read up on it. Many homeless find the pharmacy their center of operation, as long as they have an address where they can get the scripts and funds for the meds provided by the State.

You're just in denial if you dismiss the connection between policies and results. And it's not always just "politics" when someone on the opposite side identifies examples of a set of policies that seem to have failed.

Real life is boring, a slog.

The news juices it up. You care about 'children in cages' because the press has told you to feel that way. They didn't tell you to feel it five years ago, so it barely even existed. Like border deaths now relevant, or ignorance of deaths of Mexican journalists (compared to the politically-driven coverage of the MBS hit of a "former" spook writing for the Wash Post). You care about "guns in a foreign country" because the news told you to (besides being self-important busybodies).

In fact mass shootings comprise a tiny part of gun deaths. In fact AR-15s and AKs and "assault rifles" comprise a small part of total mass shootings. But an alien listening to the press (outside of e.g. Breitbart) or any Democrats on the stump would have a grossly distorted view of reality.

News filters aside, probably the spike in "deaths of despair" is the most disturbing trend in America. News barely exists on it, though we hear lots about guns. Is it video games, violence in movies since Peckinpah, over-prescription of opioids, adulterated drugs mostly fentanyl? Shh, mass shooting narrative (outside maybe Fox) is simply guns guns guns, and overseas: mericans are crazy.

Here, a recent twitter thread was unrolled for easy reading:

SO it seems in America, excluding suicides or not, net effect of guns is to reduce deaths.

The #1 reason given was it was inconvenient while #2 was lack of safety and #3 was lack of cleanliness. Maybe you should have watched it before you posted wrong and stupid things?

Who told you to feel like a Nazi?

Yep, according to the mentally broken people on the left everyone who is not them must be a Nazi. Even children are smarter than them.