Springfield XDm in 40S&W

My friend who took me shooting uses this gun. Comments? I know nothing about it.

Never shot it. Heard good things about it. Good caliber. You gotta adjust your stance if he lets you shoot it.

Never shot the .40, but I shot the XD .45 and I liked it.

You won't have any problem shooting it.

Owned one of these for about a year and a half, it was a fine gun, just a little big for concealed carry, which is why I sold it.

I bought the original XD40. It is a fantastic gun. To give you an idea how much I like it, I will share that it is what sits on my Fiance's night stand.

When I got my xD, I went down to my farm in MS and shot a lot. We have a neighbor down there who manages our land as we're several hours away. We shot together - me with my Springfield, he with his Glock (Don't remember what model, but it was full size in .40S&W).

He had tons of jams when he shot his Glock. I didn't have one. Finally, I asked if I could shoot his Glock. I put about 5 magazines through it without one feed or ejection error. I handed it back. He started shooting downrange, and on his 3rd or 4th shot, he had a jam. This time, I had watched him closely. He was limp wristing it. And it was causing his Glock to not function properly.

I've seen S&W M&P's, 1911's, Glock's, XD's - EVERYTHING designed with a recoil driven system will fail if you limp wrist enough.

The XD enjoyed unparalleled success in its first year or so. It obviously wasn't perfect - they made some changes to it (though I believe the action wasn't modified). However, I assert that the majority of what you read about on the internet and the XD40 is all... related to inexperience.

My Fiance has been shooting that XD40 for almost 4 years now (I believe); I think I got it before I met her. Guess what? Though I've never had a misfire in it (and I use LOTS of reloaded bulk range ammo) I will admit to you that she did at first have a couple of misfires.

So, we handled it. We went back to a .22 Ruger, got her form and technique down, and then moved back up to the xD40. No more misfires from her.

I really respect your opinion on weapons, Frontline. You've forgotten more about the AR15 platform than I know. But I really disagree with you on the xd platform! In my opinion it is a fine weapon!

...you're ignoring the fact that I've seen an identical problem fixed with an identical solution on a type of gun considered one of the most reliable, foolproof weapons in the world: A Glock.

I've seen it on 1911's.

I've seen it on S&W's.

Semi auto recoil operated handguns jam if you limp wrist them.

Look, if you told someone to climb up a ladder, and then put 2000 pounds on their head, would you say "get a stronger dude" or "take that weight off!" when they couldn't climb the ladder?

I was pleased with the XD I shot, though granted it was a session of only 50 rounds or so. Still, frontline's opinion carries some weight so I'd probably tend away from it.

I'm a fan of Glocks and I *really* liked the M&P .45 my buddy owns, so I'd probably go that way in a new handgun.

I've never fired an XD, but I've held them in the gun store, before.

I didn't like the way it fit my hand. The backstrap area just doesn't feel right.

1911s (especially A1s) fit my hand great and Sigs seem to fit even better than that.

I didn't mean it that way. It's just that frontline and I have seen eye-to-eye on a lot of things over the years...

I'm gonna keep going here.

I agree with you about Rock River, DPMS, Olympic, etc. I agree with you about Taurus.

I disagree about the Springfield.

Now, let's hug it out bitch. http://www.tbs.com/video/index.jsp?oid=173848

I don't like the grip safety and the high bore axis as compared to a Glock or M&P. I've heard they don't fare well in high round count classes, but the average shooter probably won't stress the weapon that much.

WTF is this..."limp wristing"?

I completely disagree that it was invented for the XD. It affects all recoil operated actions.

I'll bite though. If it was created for the XD, what gun was "Riding the slide" invented for?

Limp wristing is one thing. Never done it. It's not hard to grip a gun properly. I'd say unless you're a cripple or hurt in some way you have to work hard at limp wristing.

However when an inordinate amount of people using one specific gun report problems with said gun and are told they are limp wristing you go from a person problem to covering up a gun's problem.

All those people can't be limp wristing. They just can't.

How do you define "inordinate?" Seriously. I don't think you can. Let me explain.

I sell engines. I hear about problems from customers replacing their engines. "I've read hundreds of cases of this exact same problem on the internet" they will say. And it sounds horrible.

Until you consider that reading 200 instances of mechanical failure on an engine series that has spanned 7 models over a 10 year period and probably has 20 million units on the road is... pretty insignificant.

As of a year ago I had enjoyed several 2000 round Saturdays with my XD40. I've loaned it to friends and require them to tell me how much ammo they put through it. And neither I, nor they, have had issues. Only my fiance, who after fixing how she shot, didn't have the issue. This thing has had close to 25,000 rounds through it, mostly reloads.

I've seen more glocks jam than XD's, and that is the truth.

So, the question I now have is about the XD's ya'll have encountered jamming issues with. I'm curious, and I value your opinions (you guys know what you're talking about).

What slide lengths and calibers jam?

Mine is a .40 Caliber with a 4" slide.

Are the jams happening on, say 3" 9mm's?

And you're a liar cause if Glocks jammed like XD's did then all the Glock haters would be all over the internet shoving it in everyone's face. Right now it's just you trying to shove the "Glocks jam a lot" motif in our faces.

You're misunderstanding me, completely. No where did I claim glocks jam a lot.

I claimed I've seen more Glocks jam than XD's. Since I've only seen an xd jam with my fiance shooting it... you do the math, buddy.

You're about as emotional as a woman.

May I interject something? Very early prototype Glocks did jam a lot. Limp wristing is a real phenomenon, IMHO.

It doesn't matter so much when you have a very strong steel frame. But, when you have a polymer frame, which flexes a lot or a little depending on lots of factors, it is something to consider. Manufacturers and polymer tech have come a long way in the last twenty years. You can combat limp wristing by using better, newer, stronger, and more expensive plastics, which Glock has.

I have never shot nor held an XD or XDm, but knowing Springfield Armory as I do, I wouldn't be surprised if they cut a few corners. I have owned probably three dozen SA 1911's over the course of my adult life and outside of the very high end models like the TRP, I know they cut corners. Now, I've bet my life on more than a few SA 1911's and will probably do so again before I die, but their QC is not infallible.

And I'm claiming you're lying. No one can prove it either way but it's you so I'll stand by it.

Probably went out, shot it and had a good time.

OK, have fun standing by "it."