Star Trek Returns to TV

I love the idea. The time of and right after TUC would be fantastic. To me, that is probably the best time period in terms of the possible story lines. This would be before the political correctness of TNG and later, we would still have the "cowboy diplomacy" where they were a little slower to invoke the Prime Directive, and a little quicker to pull their phasers. It would take Trek back to where a lot of the Galaxy was still new and unexplored, and not everything could be solved with technobabble/

^Of course The Undiscovered Country was made around the idea of a Chernobyl type disaster in the Klingon Empire and it was the end of the Cold War and the Federation/Klingons were going to become friends much as people had anticipated regarding the U.S. and Russians after the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Didn't really work out that way. In fact on the world stage today it appears the U.S. and Russia are steadily slipping back toward another Cold War. Other television dramas have taken this on directly with the CBS drama "Madame Secretary" featuring a brief small scale shooting war breaking out between the U.S. and Russians over Ukraine.

I might be reading the quote wrong, but I don't think they are referring to the ST6 time period... I think they are referring more to the tone of the film or the political underpinnings of the film. I seriously doubt we will ever be re-visiting the original timeline.

I think it's more likely they will stay in the nuTrek timeline but maybe do the ST6 equivalent.

I could be wrong, that's just how I interpreted his quote.

I don't think we're going to see the Abrams-verse on the small screen. The property is split between CBS and Paramount, so the series is most likely going to be entirely separate from Abrams-verse. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll go back to the original continuity, but I really doubt they'll do Abrams-verse as that is a film property and Paramount has the rights to that. So I'd agree that it's most likely they're talking about tone rather than setting, as much as I'd like to see a series set post-TUC.

Meyer's comments in no way indicate this is set after TUC. Use your heads folks. When he talks of starting point, he's talking about the sort of themes contained in that movie, not the time period.

When Variety reported on Meyer earlier they seemed pretty confident that the new show would involve new alien races and a new mythology. That doesn't sound like post-TUC to me.

All you need is a Klingon Putin.

Am I the only one that would kill to see Ian McShane in such a role?

in the JJverse it's FAR too early to establish peach with the Klingons - they have barely even mentioned them.

I may be just completely fooling myself but I sososososososososososososososoSOSOSOSOSOSOSSO want the JJ movies to be a closed universe (ala NolanBatman) and any series to be unrelated to them.

Like them or not, entertaining or not, the recent movie are a far different animal than TOS (which these guys profess to be fans of) and wholly unsuitable for a series format.

How about Jason Mamoa as a Klingon Chancellor?

How about no Klingons?

Rod Roddenberry is an executive producer.
Probably just so it'll always have the name attached, but I'm fine with it.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/366875-roddenberry-star-trek

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I truly hope they don't go for post-TUC. Why, you ask?

Because this would have the prequel problem. We know the outcome. Whatever happens, the 'future' is already established. So no mortal danger to the Earth, the solar system or the universe can ever be really dangerous. Except if they go for more time travel. Yay! They already doomed a whole series - ENT - by squeezing it into existing canon.

I think they could go the anti-VOY-way. Cast a crew out really, really far. Say, the Andromeda Galaxy with no chance of ever getting home. Free reign and fuck all the baggage!

Really the problem you're describing has more to do with execution than anything else. It might mean you can't do "the Earth is doomed!" type stories, but in my opinion you wouldn't be missing out on much by not being able to do that.

TUC came out at a time that TNG was hitting its stride, and so we already knew that there was peace between the Federation and the Klingons, yet TUC still worked because of its execution.

Not only that. But by the time of TUC, TNG had already given several of their own explanations for peace between the Federation and Klingons. Mentioning Surak had a role in it in the third season episode 'Surak". And mentioning the deaf and mute negotiator Riva played a key role in a second season episode.

It still all hangs well together.

Sarek

I don't disagree with the "far flung" idea necessarily, but I certainly hope this isn't a show about "mortal danger to the Earth"

Oh, and DS9 told great stories about the Dominion War and no one ever thought for one second the Federation would lose. Yu really don't need that "might they really lose this time?" possibility to create drama. I've seen plenty of stories that had me clinched from the drama over an outcome that I knew full well was inevitable. Just good storytelling is all you need.

IIRC, you've called for the Federation to win the battle in a massive blowout in the past.

There's no drama in such a win. As mentioned, no one thought for a moment that the Federation would lose in DS9 but they didn't just breeze through to that victory. They lost Jadzia, Nog lost his leg, Sisko has to leave his son and pregnant wife, ect.

Take Voyager, as another example. We knew they'd get home too. Did anyone care? The ship was just as clean in "Endshame" as it was in the fucking pilot. Harry griped about being homesick once in a while, but it was basically TNG:Lost in Space.

To be fair, Voyager did lose a bunch of people, and the ship did come back banged up, and retrofitted with alien tech...but time-raping Admiral Janeway took all that away.
...why didn't Temporal Investigations send Captain Janeway to the Suicide Squad jail exactly?

A concept I've suggested before:

A show set aboard an enormous Federation colony ship that's been transported via a special transwarp conduit to a distant galaxy. The ship would have a city-like interior (the largest holodeck you can imagine) and would carry light cruiser starships (a la the Defiant) the way other ships carry shuttles. There would be hundreds of thousands of colonists of all races aboard, and the ship would be run by Starfleet personnel. There would also be an overarching mystery about the real purpose of the ship's mission: to discover some very, very important...something. There would be mysterious and undetected-by-the-crew persons aboard who were guiding this mission. Contact with the Federation would still be possible, but messages would take days to receive. Stories could take place in the city-like interior, in the crew spaces of the ship, or out in space in the smaller starships.

It's sort of a combination of Voyager (except they're there by choice), Battlestar Galactica (but not running from anyone), and Babylon 5 (though everyone is part of the same Federation). Think Deep Space 9 where the station is many, many times larger and more populated, and it can move from place to place.

Wasn't that one of the three proposals for a series by Paramount before they settled on Enterprise?

doesn't seem much promise of adventure between galaxies. Either go to the other end of this one, or pick the show up as they arrive at the destination.

That's why I said they used some transwarp conduit to travel between galaxies. I imagined a "gate" of some sort built on both ends. The ship goes through the gate in our galaxy, emerges almost instantly in the other galaxy, and then proceeds via regular warp drive from there, dropping colonies as they go. Earth would still be accessible, but as the series progressed, they'd sail farther and farther away from the gate.

It could be dramatic then if at some point a year or two in a hostile force seized control of our end of the gate.

I wouldn't say they 'won' exactly. If anything it was a Pyrrhic victory. They didn't only lose starships and people, the Federation lost its soul in the conflict. That's why I think a post-DS9 series would be great. The fight to win it back or break up.

It was a fine TOS movie and filled a huge gap. We didn't know the outcome on the small scale but the big scale was set in stone already. The biggest risk was 'would any of the old crew die'.

I can't imagine how interesting a whole series on the topic would be. Not very I guess.