Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

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  1. K.

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    It's certainly possible. I would argue the death of his uncle and aunt would make this an unhappy place, and the LOTJ-planet whose name escapes me or even Dagobar would be a better place. But as I said, it's a possible choice.
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    For fuck's sake, man, do you pay any attention to what I post? I am no fan of JJ Abrams by a long shot. Go back and look at the thread for TFA, you'll see that while I was somewhat optimistic when we got the trailer that I did not see the movie in the theater, but rented it like a year later when it showed up on Redbox and was rather pleased with myself that I didn't see it in the theater. Nor have I seen Solo, nor whatever the abortion of a film was that came before this one was. I am not a fapping fan boi, nor am I someone who obsesses over finding people who claim that a movie I haven't seen is as shitty that I think it will be. I posted the link, like one would do in a thread discussing various aspects of a film, because it is relevant to elements of the discussion people are having in the thread. It is in no way a commentary on the film, or what TPTB in charge of the film might think/do. It is simply something to add to the discussion much in the same way that the actual specs of the cars featured in the movie Ford VS Ferrari might be mentioned in a thread about the film. Why you're having such a reaction to my post is beyond me.
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    Oh fuck.
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    :cool:

    Was just at Disneyland in October and saw the "old" Star Tours (although it's been updated about a dozen times since it first launched). The one I saw had Vader and a bunch of prequel trilogy characters, so it made no chronological sense. :shrug:

    The Galaxy's Edge section of the park was pretty cool, although I'd recommend getting there early. The place gets to be a zoo by mid-morning. (I was there on a drizzly weekday and thought it would be less busy but I was wrong.)
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    You know, I like Gus. I think more people should be like him.

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  6. Zombie

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    Jar Jar was good for no chuckles. :bailey:
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    Except he looks exactly like a Star Wars fan. :bergman:
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    Notice he's also just as smug as someone who's seen the films 80 kajillion times.
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  9. Diacanu

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  11. Zombie

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    A terrible character.

    The movies should have concentrated on Finn, Rey, and Poe. (for the good guys of course)

    Rose had way too much screen time in TLJ and took from Finn's story.
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  12. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I don't hate Rose as a character, but I prefer the screentime go to Rey, Finn, and Poe. I certainly wasn't wild about the whole Canto Bight sidetrack plot in TLJ, so I didn't want more of that in TRoS.

    That said...

    My big annoyance regarding Rose's lack of screentime in TRoS is that her professed love for Finn from TLJ was not addressed or resolved. She gets a "see ya, buddy" pat on the shoulder and that's it. I think the character deserved more than that.
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    She got "friend" zoned.
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    Unfortunately, Rose was the Jar Jar of the prequel trilogy. Annoying characters hated by the fans and relegated to bit parts in the subsequent movies.

    It’s no fault of the actors, Ahmed Best and Kellie Marie Tran, of course.

    They said the lines that were written for them and did what was asked of them. The writers are more to blame.

    The goons that attacked Tran on social media crossed the line. She didn’t deserve all the hate. And that goes for Jake Lloyd too.

    Heard he got really messed up in the head from Phantom Menace.

    I was always thought they should have gotten an older actor to Anakin... in fact the character should have been closer in age to Padme. That would have solved so many of the problems in the first two movies.

    Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman were born the same year. He could have just been in all three movies.

    Taking a look at the saga as a whole, I feel that the beginning (I and II) and the ending (VIII and IX) are actually the most problematic parts of the story. And the worst movies IMO.

    Everything in between is mostly pretty good stuff... including stuff like Clone Wars, Rebels, and Rogue One.
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  15. Paladin

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    Another strike against Rose:

    When she stopped Finn's kamikaze run at the Big Knocker, she could've doomed the whole Resistance.

    If she'd been around and had the hots for Randy Quaid, Independence Day would've had a much darker ending....
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    Ironically enough, Jake Lloyd looks like he could perfectly play Anakin today. He’s probably a decent actor at this point as well.
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    They messed up Finn’s story arc bad. He was pining after Rey for three movies (to the point where it was getting a little creepy...) and he never even gets to tell her whatever the heck he wanted to tell her (I don’t buy the writers lame ‘I’m Force sensitive’ cop out, makes no sense at all).

    He never even got to kiss the girl. Rose got friend-zoned by Finn and he got friend-zoned by Rey. And then Lando swoops up the new chick Janna, back to his old scoundrel ways I guess! ;)

    Considering how every relationship ends up in this saga, maybe it is for the best.

    I did think it was funny how he kept trying to tag along with her and then got force pushed for his trouble... and then he was yelling her name out while she was in the middle of a lightsaber duel...

    Finn: Rey! Reeeey!!!

    Rey: (turns around) damn it Finn, I’m kind of busy right now! What do you want?

    Kylo: (slices Rey’s head off)
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    I heard he had a pretty messed up life actually. Don’t think he has acted in much... and I think he got mixed up with drugs and crime... diagnosed with schizophrenia :(
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  19. Paladin

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    Yeah, Finn has little arc. Actually, nobody gets a halfway decent arc except Kylo Ren. Rey and Poe are pretty much the same people at the end that they were at the beginning.

    Leaving the "what did Finn need to tell Rey" question unanswered is bad storytelling. Better not to raise the issue than to have it hang in the air without resolution. It also smacks a little of cowardice that the filmmakers didn't go there.
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    That should have been character development for Finn to either sacrifice himself or almost die without her help.
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    ...am I the only one that read the Rey, Finn, Poe hug as the start of a polycule?
    Or am I turning into a Reddit fangirl?
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  22. Paladin

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    It certainly is a development of his character that he goes from ready to bail on the Resistance in the beginning of TLJ to being ready to sacrifice himself for it in the end. A problem is that it isn't motivated by much that happens in the middle.

    One could see him willing to do it if, say, Rey's life were at stake. She seems to be the main thing he cares about.
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    Thank you for putting the image of Rey being spit-roasted by Poe and Finn in my head.
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  24. K.

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    Though having said that, this guy makes a good point too.

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    I am pretty sure it is time we get Neil Degrasse Tyson on this. He is the dude who answers these questions properly for the geek world.
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    Some of it, but most of it would have still been traveling around with orbital velocity. If you got something out of the gravity well of a moon it would still be traveling at velocity relative to the main planet. Of course some matter would travel away at a vector that would reduce it's velocity relative to the planet so that would fall. With multiple moons that might be traveling in some closer orbital paths it would be possible a chunk of the death star would find it's way into their orbital track and get pulled into their gravity well.

    There are so many unknown factors for it in physics that it is possible for it to be thrown from the moon to another. However, how many of these moons have an atmosphere? If there was no atmosphere the chunk could have impacted without too much damage on a low gravity moon, but then Star was never takes gravity into account. The millenium falcon zips around in a gravity well and atmosphere like it is going through outer space. There is never really a loss of gravity on star wars ships. There is no science to any of it.
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    That is the least of the lack of science of the movies. The star wars movie are more magic than science. It is really fantasy magic creations. How can dragons fly and breathe fire? For the same reason you can harvest a star and spit it out at faster than light speeds. If you could take a chunk of star matter and send it at a planet in another solar system at speeds you could follow from the surface of a planet, it would rip apart spacetime and gravity in the region. Just the thought you could harvest the energy of a star like that makes My little pony seem realistic.
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    Harvesting energy from a star isn’t crazy. That’s what we do with solar batteries. Plants do it with photosynthesis. It’s not too crazy to think in the Star Wars universe they’ve ramped that up to a really advanced level.

    What is crazy is that whole hyperspace skipping. That just breaks the rules of their own universe that they established in previous movies. Han Solo went out of his way to point out how complicated hyperspace travel is and talked about the dangers of being close to planetary bodies... but Poe is not just jumping from system to system but from atmosphere to atmosphere. And the TIEs are following him through the jumps... I guess each TIE has its own tracker like the one they tried to disable in TLJ. If it’s that easy to hyperspace skip then why didn’t the Rebel fleet do that to escape from Hoth?

    JJ did this with Star Trek too. The whole transporting while in warp thing. It makes no sense at all and opens up a huge can of worms. JJ is a lazy writer. Great with action set pieces and production but he should stay away from scripting.
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  30. Tererune

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    That is photonic energy. The planet death star in episode 7 was sucking the mass from the star. It sucked up the star, which is so crazy. You are talking about super dense heated plasma that once it gets out of the gravity well that holds it together would explode if not held with a powerful magnetic field. That is going to travel the distance from the star to a small orbiting planet and not increase gravity on that planet at all, and just fly through space and not expand. Then it is held in a much smaller volume which would be tighter than the volume of a black hole. Then you are going to propel this super dense mass at speeds approaching transwarp 9 at a bunch of planets? If it did not destroy the galaxy it was in, it would have severely fucked it up on unimaginable levels. You would have to rip holes in spacetime to do this. That one shot would have destroyed the whole empire and not just the planets it hit. This is fantastical and not even close to science.

    Photonic energy collection is not even close to moving sun material in the state of fusion.