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Discussion in 'Camp Wordforge' started by frontline, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    So anyone following this rifle? I have been wanting one since I first heard about it a few years ago. It's from the Israelis. It's their homegrown repalcement for the M16/M4 family. However US import laws kept it from coming here. Well looks like that's been taken care of? I will sell all of my ARs and one of the kids to get a few of these, AWB stupidity dependent.

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  2. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    What is the effective range? Comparable to the M4?
     
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    It looks cool and all, but I'm not interested unless the rifle can be easily bump-fired. :bailey:
     
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  4. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    The beauty of this is that it is a bullpup. Notice where the magazine inserts. It has a standard 18" barrel, so accuracy is gonna be as good as if not better than an M4, yet look how short the over all length is by moving the magazine well and the bolt carrier group to the stock. Styer must be jealous like no tomorrow
     
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  5. BearTM

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    Damn. First the K.R.I.S.S. .45, now this.
     
    BearTM, Jan 21, 2013
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    :drool:
     
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Meh. I'll stick with my phased plasma rifle in the forty-watt range.
     
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  8. Ash

    Ash how 'bout a kiss?

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    Looks heavy, especially in the ass. If the Israelis like it, it must be good, but the performance of other bullpup designs makes me wary.
     
    Ash, Jan 21, 2013
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    Pardon my ignorance, but what makes bullpup's inherently poor performing?
     
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  10. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    I've not shot one, but his comment was that it is rear heavy. I think that may have some validitidy since most of the weight - ammo, action, stock - is located very close to the shoulder, instead of near the middle of the gun as is traditional.

    I'm not sure how awkward that makes things, but I can see the potential for problems.
     
    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee, Jan 21, 2013
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  11. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    Every report I've heard has said that it is surprisingly well balanced and quick to get into action.
     
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    I want one. :drool:
     
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    $2 grand......
     
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    Grumble...
     
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  15. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Where can one buy these in the US?
     
    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee, Jan 22, 2013
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  16. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    Thats MSRP. Question is how much will is retail for? Even at $2k it'll be cheaper than a SCAR or ACR.
     
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  17. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    So, these are or aren't currently available?
     
    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee, Jan 23, 2013
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    Ramen, Jan 23, 2013
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    With the way guns are flying off shelves?

    $3 grand.

    :diacanu:
     
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  20. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    From the SHOT show, they are coming to the US now.
     
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  21. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    Some more information

    So that's how they got around the import ban.
     
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  22. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    My wife chided me for not buying more guns recently.

    I think she wants me to buy more guns.
    This one will work nicely. :)
     
    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee, Jan 23, 2013
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    Off the top of my head:

    Unbalanced/Awkward for those not used to them.
    No shooting offhand (look at where the ejection port is located).
    Spongy trigger (look at where the trigger is and then where the sear is).


    Although these has been some good work with Bullpups recently. I still want a RFB.
     
    Ancalagon, Jan 27, 2013
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