The Amazon is burning

Remember this piece of shit?

Well, he's letting the Amazon rainforest be burnt down to create farmland, has fired the head of space science who provided the statistics telling people about it and is accusing environmental groups of lighting the fires.

The Amazon produces 20% of our oxygen and is a sink for 25% of the CO2 absorption that happens. It's already been reduced massively in size. If it's destroyed then that's almost certainly a tipping point for climate change and the end of us.

Fortunately there is now some effort to scuttle a trade deal between the EU and Brazil if he doesn't reverse course. Link.

Ecocide on this scale ought to be prosecuted with the same zeal as genocide.

If the U.S. controlled the area this wouldn't be happening.

Even you would admit that.

I'm not sure why you think that's relevant, even if true. Are you suggesting that the US ought to annex the rest of the world? If so, fuck off and stop derailing the thread.

So are even you admitting that the environment would be treated better if the U.S. controlled the rest of the world? You seriously think that China would be such an emitter of carbon if the U.S. had control of it?

Can someone split Dayton's derp into another thread please? This isn't about his wet dreams of military conquest.

Can you think of a better way of preventing such environmental damage?

Didn't think so.

No, because you'd have cut all the trees down.

Why do you believe something stupid like that? The largest tree harvesters in the United States make a point of planting more trees than they cut down.

So the Rick Deckard (Henry Hill) solution to this problem is to sit on his ass in Ireland and whine about it while suggesting the European Union (his beloved EU which is a joke) impose meaningless economic sanctions.

The only economic sanctions that have ever had a real effect are those backed up by military force. So why bother? Simply do what must be done. Don't waste time with virtue signaling. Which is what most economic sanctions are

Let's see, how long have I been hearing enviro-nutjobs preach doom & destruction about the rain forests?

Oh, just about the past 40 years at least.

Somehow, humans have survivied and thrived.

The real issue here is that Rick Deckard has too much time on his hands and nothing productive to do.

Many.

"Military intervention!"

Yes, retard, and they replace complicated ecosystems in mature forests with monocultures of commercially valuable trees. Trees that grow fast so that they can be harvested again.
Cutting down virgin forest (or burning it down) is never a good idea.

Indeed, the true value of forestland is only realised when it has had the time to establish and encourage a local ecosystem.

Which should be very much at the heart of the curriculum for those living in a rural environment.

The same was true of Dayton's foot infection.

Not true if you recognize the US has lots of problems with out of control fires within their own borders. When common sense environmental management is cut because of cost and big industry lobbying one cannot guarantee that such things would not happen under US governing.

Thanks for your contribution, but like always the evidence does not support your fantasy.

I will ignore your attempt to derail with an argument about US imperialism and the clusterfuck of stupid that is.

To get back on topic, what is brazil supposed to do? First, is this the natural cycle of burnoff, and why is this happening? Are we seeing a more problematic period of dryness and lack of rain in the rain forest which has caused the area to become more prone to burn like california forests? Are there actual arsonists burning off the rain forest?

In all honesty, I think it would be hard to maintain farmland in the jungle after the fire if the environment is remaining the same. Here in florida you cannot just wipe out the trees with fire and hope the land stays open. You need to constantly kill off the growth because it happens so fast. It is jungle climate. If there is a shift in the humidity and rain which causes things to dry out and a drought to happen then there is a larger problem that cannot be countered simply by putting out the fires. The land will burn because the debris from the plants becomes dry and quickly flammable. Jungle reclaims it's land extremely fast after a natural burn off if the overall climate has not changed. Wet jungle should also prevent some spread of fire unless there is a drought going on which dries up the organic debris the plants make. Florida went through that a few years back where lack of rainfall caused statewide fires to happen, but recovery of plants in the area with the soil nourished by carbon rich ashes means when the rain comes back things grow fast.

What I am wondering is if this is a larger problem of climate change that has caused the rainforest climate to be different which will mean that there is very little we will be able to do over time but adapt. If they are out there lighting fires to promote farming or to otherwise remove the rainforest for profit or industrial purposes then economic sanctions would be in order to discourage the practice. A dry season or two will create these fires, and happens over time, but in the long run these forests come back because the overall climate in the area is humid and rainy for periods while being sunny and promoting growth at others.

Maybe I would've bought this a few years ago but with their explicitly anti-environment President I can easily believe he or his cronies are behind this.

Is there any chance we can pack up a rightforge squad to go down and investigate? We could call it fucked troop and @Marso could be in charge. @Dayton Kitchens could be his second in command and we could have @Paladin be private pile. @oldfella1962 can be the crazy vet they send along to help them. @The Night Monkey can be the rookie kid who is just out of boot camp and dies because he falls for a brazilian hooker who is secretly an enemy officer.

We could make a found footage movie if we got them all go pros.

More Murdock than BA.

He's burning it down so that Brazil can sell soybeans to China. They quit buying ours because we slapped a bunch of tariffs on Chinese products.

If we were going by A-team characters I would have to say @oldfella1962 would probably be hannibal while @Marso would be more BA. I figure @Dayton Kitchens would be murdock and @Paladin would be face. Then the boy would probably the grandson of whoever hired them to go on the mission.

So this goes back to trump's tarrifs?

Thank you Twitler.

Fun fact, Mexico started cutting down agave cacti used for tequila production a while back (the particular blue agave only grows in certain Mexican soils) because they saw more money in growing corn for the US bioethanol market.

Fuck off. Murdock may have been crazy but he still got shit done.

Dayton is like the incompetent adjutant to the fuckwad General who was chasing the A-Team.

Then feel free to list them.

Even if he does, you'll still die ignorant.

We are talking mirror universe a team.

Tawnia seduced and betrayed all of them in the first ep, having already replaced Amy by spiking her coffee with LSD.

I figure they all probably die in the first episode because that actually hit someone when they shoot, only it is probably themselves.

@Marso dies while sucking on Chad balls right after he says "I love it when a plan goes FUBAR!"