The Amazon is burning

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    No. It is because I do not like the idea of the massive incineration of cities and their populations? That good enough for you?
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Not quite. What do you have against tactical nukes deployed against military targets?
  3. Dayton Kitchens

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    Crossing the nuclear threshold in any way is too dangerous to seriously consider.
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  4. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    You're as fake as Baba.
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  5. Dayton Kitchens

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    What do you mean by that?
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  7. Dayton Kitchens

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  9. Dayton Kitchens

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    You have indicated that there is nothing I can present that you will accept as proof of God. So there is no point.

    I on the other hand do take seriously what people post here and I have changed my mind occasionally based on things others posted. .
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  10. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    That's a lie.
    I've laid out the kind of proof I'd accept.
    The sort of proof we use every day to prove mundane objects like orange juice, grapes, shoes, pillows, and cardboard boxes.
    The thing itself, or an evidence trail.

    You as much admit that's never coming.
    Which would be fine, but then you demand this standard of evidence from everyone else.
    Nope.
    You've refused to either put up, or shut up, so we're done.

    Fraud.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    You're a hypocrite.
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  13. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Zombie's right, there's a ton of fake news about the Amazon, right on down to pictures that have nothing to do with current situation.

    Here are a couple of stories I found very interesting on the subject.

    This one's old news, I was taught this in grade school - the plankton of the oceans provides most of our oxygen.

    Here's one that says the Amazon nets out at zero effect (no plus or minus to planet's oxy level).

    Bottom line, according to a guy named Shellenberger:
    - "Amazon consumes about as much oxygen as it produces"

    - 60% of oxygen used by plants & 40% by microbes breaking down dead leaves & wood

    - "Net contribution of the Amazon ECOSYSTEM (not just the plants alone) to the world's oxygen is effectively zero"

    Here's an excellent 'tweet' from the same guy, fascinating boots-on-ground report of rural (poor) life on the fringe of the Amazon, will surprise some:


    https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD

    <pedo warning - there's some pics of little kids peckers>
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    Bolsanaro rejected the $20 million, at least partially because he has an ongoing spat with Macron.

    The amount was derisory in any event, underlining where this falls on the list of priorities.
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    Given that the blogs you link to highlight the more important role of Phytoplankton in producing our oxygen, and given that global warming is a major threat to that, are you going to start caring about it on those grounds? I bet not.
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    The Amazon does not supply 20% of the world's oxygen. :rolleyes:
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    Interesting article from Forbes

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/#439f81c95bde


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    The Canucks are paying Loui Erikkson $36 million, which really puts it into perspective for Vancouver hockey fans
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    I’ve read not a sentence of the blog piece but just my usual disclaimer that Forbes Sites is an open blogging platform. The blog piece is from Michael Shellenberger, not Forbes.
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    Good to know - I was not aware, thanks
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    What's your reason for thinking that the Amazon provides 20% of the Earth's oxygen, @The Night Monkey ?
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    That is totally not what the guy on the other side of the glory hole told us.
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    Apparently there's been some falsehoods floating around the web, that's not to say that the Amazon isn't important to the earth's ecosystem though.
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    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    You're saying, what, that you have a problem that some people you don't know used 200 million of their own money to pay some other people you don't know by engaging in voluntary transactions, that ultimately left both sets of people satisfied with their bargains? If so, what a jerk, and glad you have little power.

    Back to the Amazon, why so many fake pictures of the fires going viral, didn't they have any real ones?

    Has media coverage of "news" now evolved to the "Source Wars?"
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    What he actually said was "come back when you're a man"...….
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    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    How can you think that one lie (about the Amazon) will make me believe that another (possible) lie is more likely to be true?

    To be even more clear, both statements can be true at the same time: we get most of our oxygen from the oceans, AND there may not be a material causal connection between CO2 emission and CO2 levels and together they might not be the cause of any actual increase in global average temperature (using whatever complex definition is applied to calculate that metric) that may in fact have occurred since the industrial revolution.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Those metrics have just oddly increased commensurate with that revolution at a rate never before seen, recorded or evidenced over the course of billions of years then?