The Daily Show parody of Glenn Beck

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    I saw a bit of it, meh. It's kinda sad to see what's become of Jon Stewart, he shows an out of context clip, makes a sarcastic comment, rinse and repeat. And now that the DNC controls the entire government he's reduced to goofing on conservative talk show hosts.

    Yes Jon we get it, Democrat good, Republican bad.
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  4. Amaris

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    What do you mean? Stewart rips on both sides.
    Oh, and as for those out of context clips, not very often. Any time I see a Jon Stewart clip, first thing I do is look for the original.
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    If you think Jon Stewart is an equal opportunity mocker, odds are you:

    • Have never seen his show
    • Only watch his show
    • Never saw his show sober
    • Repeated a few grades
    • Are Jon's mom
    • All of the above
    And please spare me any linking to the rare jab at the DNC as if it proved his bipartisanship.

    Jon Stewart is pro DNC and anti-GOP. And that's fine, I doubt he'd deny it either. He has made millions pandering to one side of the aisle. He may even be a true believer, who knows.

    Are you pulling my leg? The "edited clip-fest" is his bread and butter.

    On the one hand I am happy for Mr. Stewart, I've been a fan of his for years, and know he's had nothing but one failed show after another until the Daily Show. Yet on the other hand it's a shame he had become a pandering partisan to find success.
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    Hey, he had a really good schtick in... anger management? Was that the movie he was in?
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  7. Nova

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    Wait...let me get this straight...

    A comedian mimics, for comic effect, the style and presentation and mannerisms of another well known figure and this is, in the words of the poster (at the link) "a complete and utter destruction of everything Glenn Beck stands for"?

    Heh.

    Some folks are easily impressed.
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    Aside from whether it's true or not in this case (I haven't watched the clip yet), you should realise that satire is a very powerful tool for deconstructing political views.
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    And reinforcing them.
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    Generally that's true - IF you already agree with the preconceptions of the satirist.
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    Parodying Beck is like making fun of a clown. What's the point?
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    Eh, I'd argue he's obviously liberal but not so devoted to the DNC. He comes out against them whenever they betray their values for backdoor politics.

    In any case, Glenn Beck is a demagogue who doesn't believe in what he says and clearly uses his audience for power and money. He's like a televangelist; the scary thing is that so many people take him seriously.
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  13. Tuttle

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    They're actually two sides of the same coin, whores performing for their next fish so they can eat, the chief difference between them being that one of them wants his audience to laugh more, while the other hopes to change more government policies - in both cases what they really want is more fish.
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    If I had to put money on it, Stewart is more sincere in what he does.
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    I enjoy watching both of them. Stewart because he's often genuinely funny, Beck because . . . well, who wouldn't stop to watch a train wreck?

    Oh, and I also think Stewart is good because he avoids the smarmy elitism of someone like Bill Maher.
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  16. Amaris

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    Meh, you're free to your opinion, but I watch his show all of the time, and I have seen his comedy outside of the show. :shrug:
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    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Without a bias, in the current environment I'd expect about 2/3 of his jokes to poke fun at Obama, at least more than half. (based on the comedy I do watch, though So Park is the only regular show I still watch on Comedy channel). A guy with a super majority who failed to achieve a single reform objective (spending aside) - fix financial reg, cap & trade, health care, health insurance, card check is prime fodder for any kind of comedian.

    While a partisan comedian (which I have no doubt can still be funny) will find plenty of humor to be made at expense of GOP and conservatives and right-wing, the solution is blame Obama's many shortcomings on someone else: failure because of nutjob Beck, the obstructionist GOP, religious nutjobs that don't like medicaid-paid abortions, the jokes write themselves for a partisan (just take liet's pov without the uncorked personality).

    Does Stewart rip on Obama as much as would seem appropriate given the extreme circumstances of humor? (world apology tours, the jokes write themselve in the other direction too, if he's not blindly partisan).
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  18. Amaris

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    I love it when he does become frustrated with Obama, the faces alone are priceless for me. :lol:
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    I think you'd be surprised at exactly how sincere Glen Beck is. It's definitely moreso than you give credit for, even if it's not at much as it should be given his profession. Fundamentally he believes most of the substance of what he says, and the over-the-top schtick that you know can't possibly be real is not all that substantive and serves mostly to draw attention. I'm sure there is a good deal of his substance that comes off-the-cuff and that he probably wouldn't hold to if he thought about it, but even that's less insincere than it is uncontemplated.
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    Stewart emasculated Kramer on cnbc. That was fucking worth it. I love the way stewart's been mocking the companies taht got us in this mess.
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    He also pretty much killed CNN's old Cross Fire show.
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    I doubt he made the show's ratings any worse. Did anyone, anywhere ever have any interest in watching Tucker Carlson? Stewart mostly just successfully highlighted and publicized the ridiculousness of Crossfire, leaving the show a bit of an embarrassment in addition to the ratings loser with no demographic appeal it had been for a while.

    So I don't know that Stewart really killed Crossfire. It was already dying of its own accord, and by removing hope of forestalling that death, perhaps Stewart hastened it, but he isn't the one who killed the patient.
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    No,
    One side always thinks the Other side it the Devil.
    And we point and laugh.
    Glen Beck does the same thing to Dems.
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    And then there is Stephen Colbert. Whom I like a lot.
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    If you've ever heard of Glenn Beck before two years ago, then you wouldn't make that statement. He is a charlatan, a fraud, and he holds the very people in his audience with utter contempt.

    He is conservative, and that might confuse you, but he isn't insane in his personal life.
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    He's not insane period.

    It's a presentation style. Period.

    any and all successful "in front of the camera" people have one, and they are very seldom the same as how they presnt themselves off camera.

    In fact, if you see Beck's Christmas stage show he's an ewntierly different guy.

    No, more to the point - if you watch Beck spend an entire hour interviewing some author who's written a tome about some historical event or figure, he's not remotely the same guy as the dancing clown that got him his reputation. He's quiet, thoughtful, insightful, and a first class interviewer.

    but those who don't watch regularly have no clue about this because it's the shtick that gets parodied, that ends up on youtube, that makes even those who agree with him cringe.

    But it's the shtick that gets the insightful things noticed where they wouldn't otherwise.


    Is Beck REALLY a clownish loud moth buffoon?

    Hell no. and he'll tell you that right up front himself. (you could find similar admission in the Katie Couric interview for instance)

    Does that mean that his ideological positions and ideas are also similarly artificial?

    I, for one, do not believe so.

    I think it's a symptom of our jaded culture - rightfully jaded because there ARE a ton of charlatans - that it's the default assumption that anyone who speaks passionately about anything is presumed to be a fake.

    Beyond that, I think a lot of folks are too shallow to differentiate the difference between feigning a presentation style and feigning the ideas presented.
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    Sorry but the occasional jab at the democrats vs. his constant jabs at republicans doesn't mean he's not a tool.
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    it is hilarious, and he does kick his ass a bit BUT he manages to brag on him in the same bit by praising his intellect.

    Olberman is a fine example of how one can be an intellectual and still be a total fucking moron.