The DeSantis is a Corrupt Bastard Thread

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  1. Jenee

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    Ok. Now can we think a bit more abstractly?

    Matt gave a specific instance in which one country borrowed money from another country.

    Yes, we know you were not directly involved in the transaction.

    Then, the other country paid back the first country.

    Decades later.

    The children of the people who borrowed the money had to pay back what the preceding generation borrowed.

    You, specifically, did not receive a dime. But, the country you live in received that money.

    I don't believe reparations should come from taxpayer money, either. So, I don't necessarily agree with Matt's example. But, just saying you wouldn't have borrowed the money in the first place is not a valid response to the statement.
     
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    So now we're dictating what my multiple choice answers may be? Fuck that. Matt's example was just a transparent attempt to paint me into a corner with a wholly false comparison.
     
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  3. Jenee

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    So, just say that.
     
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  4. matthunter

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    If it was transparent paint, then the only one who put baby in the corner was yo pacifier-sucking bitch ass.
     
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  5. Steal Your Face

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    Like I said in the post you quoted, I don't think it's too complex.
     
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  6. MikeH92467

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    As opposed to
    As opposed to you:goalposts:
     
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  7. Bailey

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    Yes, but it would only take weeks to say that if someone was trying to make it overly complex and make the individuals involved not actually look bad for it.

    "These guys were fuckwits, but they were in favour of good rights for people like them". Bing, done.
     
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  8. Steal Your Face

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    Nope, you could have a whole college course on the nuance between what the founders believed and the actions they took prior to the war and after the war. You could explain how both sides offered freedom to slaves that joined the war effort and how that played out. But we know how you like to simplify things that don’t fit neatly into your binary thinking.
     
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  9. Bailey

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    Sounds like you think it's pretty complex then. Better binary thinking than biased godworship thinking, which is clear from how the "you can't judge them by current standards!" lines never come out when something good is being said about them.

    I'm very happy to let them live in the past, but anyone who wants to hold them as modern day moral authorities but thinks questioning their morals is impossible deserves to get hit with the dunce stick
     
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  10. Steal Your Face

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    The whole entire history American Revolution a complex. History is complex. When you're teaching high school students, you have to decide what is and isn't covered in the curriculum. If you have an American history class that covers a period of time from say 1492-1860 then you're going to cover key events. Obviously the signing of the Declaration of Independence. If you want to mention the fact that there was a paragraph that mentioned slavery, but they took it out because Franklin et al. didn't want to upset the Southern States, then mention it. Talk to the class about it for a day or two then move on. That's not complex, but then you need to suggest to the class that if they want to know more about that particular prevision, then you have the teacher recommend certain books that talk about that. That also doesn't mean that you can't have a whole entire college course devoted that that one particular aspect of the revolution. That turns it into a more nuance, complex discussion.

    As for the "godworship", you keep bringing this up. Nobody thinks like this. When discussing a particular aspect of history, you absolutely don't judge historical figures by modern times, you judge them by what their contemporaries were saying at the time and frame the discussion around that. If you want to judge them by modern times then that's best left up to a philosophy class or a political science class.
     
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  11. Bailey

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    Ok.
     
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    True. It said that enslaved people were ZERO fifths of a person, but that their enslavers were still allowed to use them to increase their political power.

    Saying that the victims of enslavement were considered three-fifths of a person is actually being overly generous to the slavers.
     
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    So what do you think about these articles, Tuck? Or do you not think?
     
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  20. Tuckerfan

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    I think whatever I might have to say isn’t nearly as interesting as what others have to say about it.
     
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    I think you may be right.
     
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    Did I miss a specific episode where Tuck and Steve had a falling out, or did it creep up like Dany's dark side change in Thrones?
     
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    Why can't it be both?
     
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  24. Tuckerfan

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    He’s been on my dick for years now. Either the shit I post is “too short” or it’s “TLDR.” Like FF he can’t contribute to the conversation in any meaningful way, so he just lashes out at people for the attention and hopes that someone likes him.
     
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    It's true. I'm an extension of his penis. He talks to me.
     
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    Well, this article is clearly a lie. It suggests that undocumented immigrants have jobs doing things like rebuilding houses, but I have been assured that they only come here because they want to go on welfare.
     
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    Because all you do is post memes and Tweets and if someone does challenge you, you try to overwhelm them with your walls of texts that nobody wants to read because it's usually full of a bunch of nonsense that has little or nothing to do with the subject. You won't just get to the fucking point. You ramble just as much as @Tererun, if not worse. The only one who doesn't let you get away with it is @Order2Chaos.
     
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    It's absolutely impossible to read that without hearing whining, and sniffling, and tear wiping.
    And the hiss of piss soaking denim.
     
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  30. Tuckerfan

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    Says the guy who responds to direct questions with links to videos or vague answers, if he responds at all.

    Not everything can be boiled down to a bumper sticker phrase.

    Yet, he's not commented nearly as much on my slightly longer-than-usual posts than you have. He and I have also had long back-and-forth discussions on a subject, whereas if I (or anyone else) try to engage you in a serious discussion you either run away or scream you ain't got time to read all that. If you don't have time, then don't ask me for my thoughts.
     
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