The Impeachment of Joseph R. Biden

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  1. Fisherman's Worf

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    Same. They won't even release new Shelter threads. What are they hiding? Is there a thread in the Shelter they refuse to release relating to deleted posts? :chris:
     
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  2. Nyx

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    Nah, we gave that honor to Dayton, and FF is definitely not a Charles Emerson Winchester III, so that's out.
    He could be Colonel Flagg, though.
     
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  3. Spaceturkey

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    maybe general BH Steele?
     
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    Ferret Face does cover neo dayton.
     
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  5. matthunter

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    FF's not even the yeast in Hawkeye's still.

    Hell, he ain't even the yeast in Frank's dick, the inflammation from which would be the only reason Margaret would have an interest.

    Yep, guys can get yeast infections too. This has been your M*A*S*H medical fact of the day.
     
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  6. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    It isn't fun.
     
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Is this a class action lawsuit commercial?
     
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  8. matthunter

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    What the fuck would you know about class anyway?
     
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  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Actually I would trust @Order2Chaos.
     
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    :wtf: What?
     
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    Lame rationalization, if not utterly ridiculous. That assigns no value to office being campaigned for that the fundraising is going toward. Either both are inherently bribery or neither is. My reading is that a quid pro quo element is necessary to rise to bribery in either case, but it's impossible for me not to see both as conflicts of interest.

    Edit: not saying that a conflict of interest is enough to warrant impeachment. But it still obviously is one.
     
  12. Steal Your Face

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    Not out to get me, but a select few that relentlessly make jokes at my expense and I’m fucking sick of it.
     
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  13. Spaceturkey

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    have you tried not being ridiculous then?
     
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    What have I done that you deem ridiculous?
     
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  15. Tererune

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    Someone needs to stop pretending he doesn't come here to satisfy his humiliation kink.
     
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  16. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    This may be a distinction without a difference to you, but official political donations are tracked/regulated in part so people can have educated opinions about whether something is potentially a conflict.

    If someone were to attempt to circumvent the laws around political donations by paying more than market price for something where a candidate (or someone closely associated with a candidate) were to benefit, it at least arguably could signal a conflict of interest/ethics issue that is not as present in a direct donation within the proscribed limits.
     
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    You call what happens in Congress "working extraordinarily well"? These assholes can't get shit done.
     
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  18. Spaceturkey

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    thsi is where i post a link to your posting history and the whole routine begins...

    I suppose you're tiresome in equal measure.
     
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  19. Steal Your Face

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    How about you point to one example?
     
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  20. Spaceturkey

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    see, there's the routine...
    this thread title?

    that in the last few minutes in another thread you just suggested that child abuse/traffik survivors should be polite about confronting it?

    that you stick your foot in your mouth so frequently you cant tell if it's herpes or a plantars wart?
     
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  21. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Mods, can you change FF's avatar to some pop culture reference that would be more befitting of his age like...well, I don't know...what are high school kids watching these days?
     
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  22. Spaceturkey

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    dumb sheldon?
     
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  23. Tererune

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    I am pretty sure Patrick from spongebob would be a proper comparison.
     
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    Tracking conflicts of interest doesn’t make them not conflicts of interest.
     
  25. Diacanu

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    No, Patrick's foolishness is innocent and pure.
    None of the bloodthirsty vengeful whiny grievance shit you get with FF.
     
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    True, but some potential conflicts of interest are worrisome and some are acceptable/tolerable. There's a certain amount of line-drawing to be done, about which reasonable people can disagree.

    One of the lines that has been drawn is that any individual can donate up to a certain amount to a candidate directly, and we the general public are not supposed to care about any possible conflict of interest that arises from that ethically or legally. But playing shenanigans to circumvent that amount or the law should raise flags.
     
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  27. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Maybe the dad from Rick and Morty?
     
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    I decline to not care ethically. Obviously it’s not up to me legally.

    Edit: dammit, nearly missed the forest for the trees here. Point is, one should not be reported as not a conflict of interest, even if it isn’t legally bribery.
     
  29. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I agree that it is absurd that any of us could give Politician X a thousand dollar donation to their campaign fund, and that's 100 percent OK. It's even OK if we call up Politician X after their elected and say "Please do this" and no problem generally speaking if Politician X does it.

    Meanwhile, if any of us hands Politician X a thousand dollars in unmarked bills in a paper bag that's an obvious red flag. Or hypothetically, according to various ethics ordinances, if someone gives Politician $200 tickets to a concert for free, that's a problem.

    I think "not a conflict of interest" should be read as "not a conflict of interest that is legally problematic" in this context.
     
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