the Jussie Smollett incident - what say you wordforge?

Which is not something someone who is not under investigation needs to do. What sort of police state do you think this is here buddy? Would you mind if police searched your phone for a few days because you were beaten up?

That's fine and I agree, but it's beside the point.

That’s been blown out of proportion too. The police asked informally for the physical phone which he felt uncomfortable with. He’s given them the actual records which is really what they need.

You are such a failure. From your own link:

Says the idiot who didn't read her own link.

Hey don’t need the phone, just the records. You’re so desperate to believe he’s lying. The police have been extremely clear that they believe he’s being truthful. You’re just assuming he’s lying from the jump for “reasons”.

The police are now trying to track down where the noose rope came from.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/0...go-rope-hate-crime-chicago-police-department/

Bitch, I WAS a black conservative! You were one of the people bashing Liet for calling me an oreo for being a conservative, you walnut! The fact that you and everyone else act like I never believed this garbage just proves my point exactly.

I know the reasons. "Democrats are using us" "I'm tired of being talked over by white liberals." Bla blah fucking blah. It comes from a good place for most of them and they're not wrong . But I know I'd rather try to fix the party that has things I support like abortion rights for pregnant people and protections of the queer community instead of pitching in with.people who fight to get my ass locked up for having half a joint on me.

Not quite, you said you were fooled when you were conservative (you didn't say you changed your mind based on some new information or something) - sounds like you never really agreed with the values and beliefs of conservative ideas.

You were just misinformed or "brainwashed." Now how can you be so sure it's not *you* that's brainwashed left, and that white and black conservatives (too many to list) are all just misguided and uniformed?

She is s clear as you and dinner are two big old racists.

No, cellphone location data is key these days in order to put both the perp and the victim at the same place and to show they were interacting. Why do you suppose he would obstruct the investigation like that and refuse to cooperate?

So, to be clear, you have been completely wrong about everything so far but, please, continue.

My guess is he bought it himself. If he is halfway intelligent he paid cash, if not it is on his debt card. If the police want to check there is probably CCTV footage though I doubt Chicago PD will bother both due to money and because they are afraid of what they will find.

If he wanted proof he could allow police access to his cellphone data but he is preventing that so one has to wonder why?

Jesus H. Christ Tererun - if examining his phone can help prove where Jussie was and when he was in a particular location it might clear things up. Then maybe there won't be a "conspiracy" of any kind will there? If the cops are doing their job they don't give a shit about hurting anyone's feelings, or exposing anyone's narrative. So yeah, to be fair they should investigate everyone involved. And since the only "persons of interest" are two shadowy grainy figures the cops really don't have a lot to go on now do they?

So it looks like at this point that unless whoever did this lets their guard down and starts bragging or does anything else stupid, then there will be no definite proof of exactly what happened or who was involved.

They said they didn’t need the physical phone just the records. You’re living in a fantasy world to protect yourselves from acknowledging that you are incapable of trusting a black man even when the police are backing him up.


And you act upset that you get called racist.

if I thought there was a chance it would help, sure. Also I would take every opportunity to shut up the doubters who didn't believe my story by proving that I indeed was exactly where I
said I was at the time I claimed to be there. If the phone doesn't exonerate me I could at least say I tried, and maybe the cops would see that I am serious about finding the suspects and they might try a little harder. Either way not giving up my phone or anything else they needed wouldn't help my situation.
That said if my claims were false (or deceptively inaccurate) I would be very hesitant to bust myself out of course. Better to at least keep the people who believe me on my side rather than exposing myself as a bullshitter to the whole world. But that's just me. Jussie can do whatever he feels is the smart play.

Funny how the police believe Smollett, only conservatives have doubts. Gee, I wonder why?

And can't I not trust a man who happens to be black? Jussie is black...I get it. So because he happens to be black I am obligated to treat him any differently?
Black people can't make up stories? Tererun claimed that it's white people who make up stories! Hmmm.....how about ANYBODY can make up a story? Is that physically possible? Why yes I believe that it is.

The left make constant claims about wanting equality for all. Yet when I treat a black person the same as I treat a white person that's not good enough! I have to believe a black man's story as gospel or I'm a racist. If I say this story has holes no matter who is telling it I am called a liar - that I would believe it if a white man told a similar story. So you are a hypocrite - you say you don't want a double standard but obviously you do! You fucking demand a double standard! The burden of proof should be lowered (or raised depending on the situation) according to race - and anyone who doesn't agree to this you call a racist.

It seems you want the world to revolve around your narrative, facts and logic be damned! A different way of thinking? Holy shit only a racist would have an opinion different than mine!
We can't tolerate a world that doesn't conform to our narrative!

Yes, every single cop believes him! You interviewed every cop on the Chicago police force personally I'm sure! Wait - you also interviewed every single liberal and none of them have any doubts either? You must be Superwoman to accomplish that in such a short amount of time! Are all liberals as awe inspiring as you? Oh who am I kidding, you are extra special.

There is a thing called evidence. Why is he preventing the police from gathering that evidence? It costs him nothing yet he is blocking them all the same. Why? What is he hiding?

I swear you have the mentality of a child. A very naive child.

Actually I actually read the news and not speculating about what it meant because I’m not a paranoid and delusional moron. You have no facts, no evidence, just your assumption that something isn’t right. Assumptions that are basically a bizarre conspiracy that a man on a popular tv show would throw away his career in order to tarnish the already terrible reputation of MAGA hat wearing idiots. A simple police investigation would disprove it if it were false and he’d be charged with a crime. There’s no proof of any of this, just conservatives and only conservatives who can’t wrap their heads around the fact that black and LGBTQ people face violence on a daily basis. They can’t believe that a gay black might get assaulted in America because they as white, straight cis men don’t.

You know what will happen if he’s found to be a liar, everyone is going to turn on him. But if the police investigation proves him right and makes an arrest, we know that every single conservative will act like none of this ever happened.

I dare you to post a single legitimate news source that agrees with your conspiracy theory.

Uh, yeah, I did believe in fiscal conservatism. I never bought the whole "abortion is evil" part of it, but I certainly thought, as @Nova did her entire life, that all people needed for success is to pull oneself by the bootstraps.

Sorry, I didn't hear you over the sound of you choking on @A Bangkok Atheist 's salty balls

If you have actual proof, then prove me wrong conservatives. It would be so simple, but I don't get it. I just get drive-by reps as if that means anything to me.

Come on, prove me wrong. Something convinced you, what was it?

Are you truly that stupid? Your own news source agreed. I quoted it back to you, you brain damaged mongoloid!

It said that he hadn’t handed over the phone but was giving them the records. I thought it was pretty clear that the police didn’t object to that at all. If they really needed it they have ways of doing that, but they haven’t. Is this seriously your smoking gun? What could possibly be on the phone that can’t be recovered from the records? I got the impression that they’re try to nail down the exact time and use that to coordinate with the surveillance footage. But what do I know? This forum of totally not racist Sherlocks is on the case and they have suspicions based on a man being attached to his phone, like every other person his age and younger.

Dumbass. All you have is that he didn’t hand over the phone and the police are still saying he’s been cooperating. Does that mean nothing to you?

Really? What books, papers or authors did you ever read that influenced you to become a "conservative" in the first place, or that formulated your change in positions to those now, of extreme or radical left? Or perhaps it was word of mouth, or indoctrination by imo those indoctrinated by past few generations of ever-more-leftie intellectuals? A lot of those "truths" you apparently hold can be proven to be empirically false ya know.

And nobody ever said it was "all," simply that it remains the least bad way.

Not only does Smollet refuse to hand over his phone he refuses to hand over any phone records.

So the police have subpoenaed his records. They've also subpoenaed his managers records as well since his manager said he heard the attack.

It’s a lie that he’s cooperating.

Also the rope was a clothesline and the witness who said she saw a redneck in the area has been dismissed as her description is wildly different than what Smollet described.

Also there's this:



It's clear the police are thinking that it's probably a hoax.

People are capable of changing their minds about things as they go through life. It's called growth, we should all want that.

That's not proof of anything. It's just saying if he were lying, not that they suspect it. Only you and other morons suspect anything and it's all based on your own biases and complete misunderstanding of how phone records work. I've seen moon hoaxers with more believable evidence. All you've done is see what you want to see and dismiss everything else and what you see is mostly in your head.

I know you don't think it's coming off as bigoted, but that's how it looks to anyone who isn't as deep down the rabbit hole of race fueled paranoia as you.