The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

I'm sorry that we don't have as many perverts as the GOP.
Say, how's Matt Gaetz? His tummy adjusted to the green prison turkey yet?
Oh, he's still in the House?
Yeah, fuck you too.

Two examples?

Thought you were a history major?

1988 presidential primaries ring a bell?

Democrats, since the 1960s, have punted any politician that has made negative headlines.

Bill Clinton is the only democratic candidate that was able to stay in ‘the party’s’ good graces and that decision cost more democratic voters than the fence sitters they brought over. And most of them are more conservative that liberal.

You want to know what’s wrong with America? ACTUALLY read history.

I’m not a Republican, dipshit. And no, your imagination doesn’t count.

Yeah, you just use all their talking points, but you're this brand new philosophy no one's ever heard of or imagined before.
It's maaaaagiiiic!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/15/fani-willis-trump-georgia-case/

I also use libertarian talking points and on occasion liberal talking points. You use liberal talking points. So fucking what? There are no new ideas. Everyone uses the same ideas over and over, it’s how one individual may see things in their own eyes.
Yes, I lean libertarian right, so what? Am I not allowed to have political leanings? Yes I agree with Republicans on some things and occasionally have voted for one or two. Again, so what? Find someone who hasn’t agreed with republicans on at least one issue over the years. That doesn’t mean I agree with them on everything or vote down party lines. I don’t.
You act as if people don’t believe in everything that you believe in then they’re evil or something. Dude, you seriously need to get a grip on reality. Newsflash, everyone is different and have different opinions on things. “
Your opinions are fed to you by your YouTube masters.” No they’re not. I listen people I generally agree with because I value their take. I don’t agree with them on everything. I also do my own research, but you just assume I don’t.
Robert Meyer Burnett talks about Star Trek a lot, I like that. Why is that a bad thing? He’s built up a community of fans that discuss Star Trek among other things. Why is that bad thing.?
Jimmy Dore, who you can’t articulate why you don’t like him, is funny and I like his content and yeah, sometimes I agree with him or happen to have a similar opinion. Excuse the fuck out of me.
I can only conclude that you hate the concept of free association and want little clones of yourself to populate the planet.

Okay! Finally!
Your turn UA!

Awww, you were doing so well...

I'm willing to make you another bet: the judge who is overseeing the Georgia case, Scott McAfee, is not a Democrat.

What are you willing to lose...besides your dignity and your integrity, which are apparently long gone.

I'll see your party affiliation and raise you a Federalist Society membership.

Bob Menendez. High ranking Dem Senator TWICE prosecuted by a Dem appointed AG.

I believe I started the thread on Menendez and then called and continue to call for his resignation and/or expulsion.

How many threads have you started about corrupt Republicans?

Shh...why are you trying to squelch my action?

Also, the profile I read said that the dude is 34 years old. 34 is CRAZY YOUNG to be a judge. Typically you would only get done with law school at 24 if you do the normal graduating college at 21 and then 3 years going after your J.D. It's entirely possible that he's a savant. It's entirely possible that he's super connected through the aforementioned Federalist Society.

http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3323280/
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3317276/
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3488551/
http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3469779/

You lean over so Trump’s tiny, mushroom-shaped dick will fit better.

Unrelated, but if Columbo were to be rebooted, I'd hope they cast Hugh Jackman for the role.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68600093

I'm guessing that at some point he's going to do a Vinnie the Chin and show up in court in a wheel chair, stinking to high heaven and drooling on himself. Sort of like his recent campaign appearances, minus the wheelchair. My over/under on the collapse is before the sentencing in the "Stormy Daniels" case. If he makes it all the way to the election without such a collapse and you take the "over" I'll pay two to one! Place your bets!

If he loses he will most certainly try to put on the too sick to go to prison charade. The only thing I do not know is if he is capable of keeping his mouth shut, which would be a requirement. If he is too sick to go to jail, he is too sick to go golfing, have rallies, go on TV and news programs, and do all the angry shit he does. He would have to shut up and take every bit of abuse and mocking the comedians and politicians send at him.

I do not think he is actually capable of shutting the fuck up and playing cripple well enough to not get caught. We will see.

I really REALLY want the plane to be the first thing she seizes just for the entertainment value.

I would accept, grudgingly, the accommodation of some of what comes with being a former president (some kind of special site or house arrest or whatever but I have two non-negotiables:

NO golf.
NO electronic communications or interviews.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...ts-prison-contempt-congress-convic-rcna144043

He will have around 30 days knocked off because that is what jails do to get 30 days of funding for keeping them on the books, double charging for a bed for those thirty days, and keeping the population of the prison down. They will tell us all it is another reason, but everyone is going to get it.

90 days is not necessarily fun either. It drags like a bitch. He may get a special favor and get his prison account created quickly, but if not the first thirty sucks without funds. He will certainly want a job in the office which he won't get right away unless they do him a special favor. I did not want to be in a CT jail without AC in the summer, so I cannot imagine what southern florida will be like until mid June.

The time will drag and the one problem he will have is he is well known and has money. If another prisoner causes trouble for him he could end up in solitary and up on other charges. It is not too hard to slip contraband into another prisoner's things to get them a violation which could result in new charges and more time. Not to mention a poor prisoner could fight with him and get him in trouble. He has to keep out of trouble for 90 days in a bunkhouse full of troublemakers.

Anyone can do 90 days in a jail. It is like a really shitty camp you can't leave, and they give you shitty things to do. I have a feeling it will be harderr on him because he is used to privilege so he will harp on all the things they took away from him. When I was in for my 90 days I did not have the hangups of entitlement making me think I was above the people and the situation. FOMO of what was going on on the outside was the fucking worst.

I don't think that a hypothetical prison could bar an inmate from communication or interviews without running afoul of the First Amendment. They can restrict how many interviews he can give or the means by which those interviews take place or those sorts of things, but it would seem like an easy case for Trump to win.

https://newrepublic.com/post/179928/alina-habba-trump-bedminister-hush-money-lawsuit-settlement

Seems pretty short-sighted to not extend the umbrella of protection to Habba over this. Leaving her out to dry -- while on brand for Trump -- underestimates the damage she could do if she decides that she wants to retaliate. Merely in the public-relations arena, just going on all the shows she's been on to reverse all the statements she's made about how great and rich and powerful Trump probably could be done, never mind potential whistleblowing and leaking.

You're the lawyer but I would have thought that convicts routinely get such constitutional rights restricted as a routine part of their status. I mean, a prisoner in solitary isn't going to be communicating except maybe with his lawyer, so the principle exists that such rights are not unlimited.

I get that there would be SOME communications (since he wouldn't be restricted to the extent of solitary) but it's surprising that they couldn't cut him off from the opportunity to call for a "bloodbath" to avenge him.

I think @Raoul the Red Shirt is slightly wrong in this case about what the prison system can do. Interviews with prisoners would be rare and very regulated. Getting camera crews into the prison would require approval. They do not even like cameras in the visitor admittance areas of jails and prisons. They can make it really hard to get access to prisoners.

To @Nova I do not think a warden would totally restrict Trump giving interviews to the press. A warden is a political player with a state job who deals with politicians. I am not talking about Trump, but rather for funding and investigations into crime stats and prisoner well being. You are talking about a political kingmaker on the right. That is not going away if he gets imprisoned, and an ambitious warden, all of them are, would be swayed by the gains of allowing him access which would also give the warden a chance to get their name in the news and perhaps get interviewed about the facility. There is going to be a lot of money and influence looking to get access to trump in prison, and I do not see a warden denying it when they could profit from it.

Restricted, sure. But eliminated? I tend to doubt it, and not without some sort of finding justifying the elimination.

So there would be two aspects of the First Amendment to consider: Trump's own right to speak, and the press's right to cover him.

The government (i.e. the prison) would presumably be deemed to have the right to place time/place//manner restrictions on either of their activities. It would be fair to say that he can't hold "The Donald Trump Witch Hunt Hour" on a daily basis. But I don't see a court approving of a blanket ban on his giving any interviews or having any communications that's not with his lawyers.

There's an argument that Trump poses a unique danger and so a prison would be justified in restricting his rights far more than the typical inmate, but I don't see a court accepting that argument. I also don't see the New York Times and the mainstream media, let alone Fox, OAN, or Newsmax, standing by while a prison attempted to cut off 100 percent access to Trump.