The Pile: A Piling List

Bill Cosby - Comedian, Actor
Harvey Weinstein - Hollywood producer
Allison Mack - Actress
John Kricfalusi - Creator of Ren and Stimpy, voice actor
TJ Miller - Comedian, Actor
Kevin Spacey - Actor
Donald Trump - Real estate tycoon, Reality TV celebrity, President of the United States
Terry Gilliam - Monty Python Actor
Ryan Seacrest - Radio personality
Lawrence Krauss - Cosmologist, Theoretical Physicist
Harry Knowles - Film critic
Steven Seagal - Actor
Gene Simmons - Musician
Danny Masterson - Actor
Russell Simmons - Record mogul
Matt Lauer - NBC anchor
John Lasseter - Voice actor, Animator, Director, Disney Animation/Pixar CCO
Al Franken - US Senator
Bill O'Reilly - FOX News host
Roger Ailes - FOX News owner
Geraldo Rivera
Louis C.K. - Comedian
Mario Batali
Eric Bolling
Bob Beckel
Kevin Clash
Charlie Rose
Eric Greitens
Andy Dick
Sean Hannity - FOX News host
Tom Brokaw* - NBC News anchor
Pat Meehan
Eric Schneiderman
Luc Besson - Director
Garrison Keillor - MPR Prairie Home Companion host
James Franco
Nick Carter
Richard Dreyfuss
Gary Goddard
Dustin Hoffman - Actor
Jeremy Piven
Tom Sizemore
Jeffrey Tambor
Morgan Freeman - Actor
Sylvester Stallone - Actor
R. Kelly
Chris Hardwick
Woody Allen - Actor, Director, Musician
Jared Leto - Actor
Victor Salva
Leslie Moonves
Allen Baron
Asia Argento
Stoney Westmoreland
Ronaldo - Football player
John Wetteland
Chris Brown
James Woods
Vic Mingnona
Neil de Grasse Tyson - Astrophysicist, Cosmos host
Ryan Adams
Ben Stein
Robert Craft
Rob Cohen
Kevin Tsujihara
Frankie Shaw
Stephen Collins
Jeffrey Jones
Paul Reubens
Kyle Massey
Kristaps Porzingis
Joe Biden - US Senator, Vice President of the United States, Democrat nominee for President of the United States
David Blaine
Anthony Weiner - US Congressman
David Stringer
Rick Schroder
James David Manning
Jim Cummings
Tony Robbins
Cuba Gooding, Jr - Actor
Max Landis
Andy Rubin
Jeffrey Epstein - Child sex ringleader
Kip Purdue
Tyrus
Alan Dershowitz - Lawyer
David Byrd
Chris Obi
Michael Weatherly
Arnold Schwarzenegger - Bodybuilder, Actor, Governator of Kalifornia
Martin Lawrence
Placido Domingo
Katy Perry - Singer
Don Lemon
Charles Payne
Antonio Brown
Richard Stallman
Brett Kavanaugh - United States Supreme Court Justice
Felipe Vazquez
Mike Folmer
Morgan Spurlock
Gordon Sondland
Prince Andrew Windsor - British Prince
Michael Bloomberg - Mayor of New York City
Danny Masterson
David Guilod
Storm Rucker - WordForger, Author
Ron Jeremy - Porn star
Warren Ellis
Charles Brownstein
Rich Kyanka (aka Lowtax, owner of Something Awful) - Message board owner
Scott Allie - former Dark Horse Comics editor-in-chief
"Method Josh" - former raid member of Method, one of WoW's top raiding guilds
Ed Henry - FOX News journalist
Cas Anvar - Actor
Alex Santos - Washington [former] Redskins director of pro personnel
Larry Michael - Washington [former] Redskins radio announcer
Richard Mann II - Washington [former] Redskins assistant director of pro personnel
Tucker Carlson - FOX News host
Sean Borhman* - Burger Records president
Lee Rickard - Burger Records co-founder
Joey Armstrong - SWMRS drummer
Adam Wolcott Smith - Growlers keyboardist
Lawrence Kasden - Producer
George Lucas - Director, Producer
Bryan Callen - Actor
Ellen DeGeneres - TV celebrity
Justin Bieber - Singer
Kevin Clarkson - Alaska Attorney General
Jerry Lee Lewis - Singer
Elvis Presley - Musician
Edgar Allan Poe - Author
Thom Brennaman - Cincinnati Reds announcer
Special Warfare Operator Chief Nicholas Olson - SEAL platoon chief
Special Warfare Operator First Class Adel A. Enayat - Navy SEAL
Steve Easterbrook - McDonald's CEO
David Fairhurst - McDonald's CHR
Marilyn Manson - Singer
John Hyten - Air Force General
David Guillod - Hollywood producer
Jeffrey Toobin - CNN analyst
John Weaver - Project Lincoln founder
Joss Whedon - Writer, Producer, Director
Gérard Depardieu - Actor
Andrew Cuomo - New York State Govenor
John Geddert - 2012 US Olympics Gymnastics coach (deceased)
Madison Cawthorn - North Carolina US Representative
Les Miles - LSU, KU football coach

fill in the blanks!

Wordforge

Your mom.

Shouldn't the thread title be "the pile: a raping (or rapey) list."

Just sayin

John Kricfalusi
TJ Miller
Kevin Spacey
Donald Trump

Terry Gilliam
Ryan Seacrest
Lawrence Krauss
Harry Knowles
Steven Seagal
Gene Simmons
Danny Masterson
Russell Simmons
Matt Lauer
John Lasseter
Al Franken

Do we really throw gene Simmons on the pile? Isnt being in kiss like a warning this dude is probably going to be a bit rapey? At what point is it the responsibility of the victim to walk around the obviously demonic and evil? I am pretty sure if I were to ever get into range of gene I would expect to get locked. He literally screams it. To the point where maybe it is a handicap that he cannot stop doing because he is evil.

There are just certain people who are well defined as those you expect to get touched and licked and things if you go around. That is probably why you go near gene in the first place, because you want him to pick you and touch you.

I don't know. Is there a point where enough warning is given that you consent by going towards the danger?

When you're so bad that Fox News bans you, there's a fucking problem and you deserve to be on the list.

D'oh!
Speaking of Fox News, can't believe I forgot...

Bill O'Reilly
Roger Ailes
Geraldo Rivera

My point is should we really need to put him on the list, or should you just avoid him if you don't want to be harassed because he is gene Simmons and that is what he does. You need a list for some of these people because you might not know, but gene self identifies.

Technically, so does anyone who calls themselves a "Hollywood producer."

When is Chuck Norris going to get on the list?

No, because that's still victim shaming.

Period.

"That's just what he does" isn't a valid excuse in 2018.

Fred Rogers

Interestingly enough, a friend of mine was let go from NBC at the network level this week for "misconduct".

These days one doesn’t really have to wonder just what that means.

I guess my question is how do we give advice for how to get around danger without victim shaming?

Rape is awful and should never happen, but it does. So if I say a way to avoid it is to travel with a trusted friend to make it harder to be overpowered and caught alone by a rapist I shaming people who don't walk like that because I simply that they could do something about getting raped.

When I say if you see a guy who is dressed like he is evil and is screaming and carrying on violently go around and avoid him, or call the police, but don't go hang out with him because he is likely to do something. That ends up being called victim shaming. That implies it is the victim's fault if they get in trouble because they go towards dangerous people.

There are dangerous behaviors and we have to be able to address being prepared for danger or avoiding danger without being accused of victim shaming.

Let us take me for example. I have hung out with drug dealers and shady people. I have knowingly done this, and as one would expect it has ended with trouble some times. There is a certain amount of that risk I have taken upon myself just as if I went bungee jumping. The expected conclusion is that sometimes when you do risky things you get burned, and if you avoid risky things you are less likely to get burned.

Knowing what I know I would have to say to a college girl don't be in a room alone with a guy especially if drugs are involved because you are going to get raped. It does not mean the dude is right for raping you in that situation, but perhaps you could have not been alone with him or not been alone with him when wasted. That is not to say you can never be alone with a guy, but maybe you are not alone with drunk guys unless you want to sleep with them.

How does one express that sort of advice without putting some responsibility on the victim in the conversation and not on a legal crime thing? That advice might be good and valuable and something a person may not know.

I am not trying to be a smart ass at this point, but rather point out a legitimate problem with the world and how it works.

Louis C.K.
Mario Batali

And this is why he wants access to children in the restroom. Unreal.

Fox also fired Eric Bolling and Bob Beckel over harassment charges. Fair and balanced firing!

George Takai.

Don't.

Honestly, I've heard it all as a woman; dress conservatively, don't go out alone at night, don't go drinking by yourself. Except women have done all those things, and society still finds reasons not to listen to them.

This is basically like telling a trans woman she deserved to get beaten up by the drunk Marine who hit on her because she didn't immediately tell him she was assumed male at birth. Do trans women like you need to be told not to attact attention to be safe?

And you hit on that Stranger in the Ally myth about rape: in the US at least, that statitically doesn't happen. Most of the time, it's someone the victim had at least a passing acquaintance with.

But it hardly matters when the bastard will get away with it anyway, so why have the escort? I'm a loner. I'll likely never be married at this point. I don't make friends easily. If I had to wait for anyone for anything, I'd never leave the house.

Well, lemme counter with an example:

A friend of my mom's got killed in Yolo county CA during heavy fog when she got out of her car to help someone. Yolo county is infamous for this thick fog, and is often the worst fog in the state.

Anyway, some jackass at the gym starts spewing off around my mom and her friends about what an idiot she was for getting out her car and he got slapped down immediately for his insensitivity.

Meanwhile, my same mom that called this guy out sees a woman got attacked while jogging at night with only a cell phone for emergency and says she's a stupid bint who deserved what she got.

In no other crime do police, attorneys, jurors and judges work so hard to find any excuse to bash the plaintiff. When I naively gave my first phone to a guy on a bike (who took off once I got on the bus), the policy didn't bash me over the head about what did I expect. I mean Wordforge laughed when Nick got his phone stolen than one time, but mostly because he was a sensitive little pansy over far less. No one would say he had it coming because he didn't fight the guy for it.

You walked in to that knowing what you were getting into. A woman who went out on a date and had one beer shouldn't expect to be attacked.

FWIW, I've long since stopped getting picked up by dates because of this reason. I don't want the guy getting any hint or expectation. When I wanna bang him, I'll tell him.

That said, the fact that there "assumed sex" indicators in our culture is a problem because we can just ask for it outright. Europeans don't have this problem because they can just ask a girl at the club if she wants to fuck and it's not creepy.

There is nothing you can say that women haven't already heard from the time they got out of diapers.

We're doing our part. Society needs to hold assholes accountable.

Amen. There's not a woman alive who hasn't heard ALL the behaviors to avoid. What's next - try to make ourselves as ugly as possible so we don't tempt those poor men with no self-control?

Rule 34

Does Pyle belong in the pile?

A couple of people have neg prepped you on this, but that was a much more topical and smoother insult. It was not your standard lame attempt so good for you. Much better.

What did that take, two years?

@Anna a whole lot of what you say is true. I get pissed off at the whole "can't you be more normal so you don't stand out and get hammered" thing. I do tend to avoid some dangerous situations, but on the other hand I get what you are saying that you have to live your life and women know what is out there all too well because they see it.

In the past week I have had two moments where this thing has come up. They were both in my class. The first is with the dumb white girl. She is stereotype dumb where she frustrates everyone. So she is talking about how her boyfriend does not wear a condom. Btw she is a lesbian. Me and one of the older women are telling her guys lie so wear a condom because birth control doesn't stop disease and every girl friends out their boyfriend cheats and does not tell them. So after telling us repeatedly hers won't we both shamed the fuck out of her telling her it will be her fault when she gets a disease because he is not going to give a shit and she is being really stupid about it because she should protect herself. Not that anything the guy does would be right there, but make his ass wear a condom. We badgered her down because not doing it was just getting blown off. Not that I think we made much difference in the end, but she does cave a bit when the adults insist on things so maybe she will.

The other situation was with the girl I am trying to help. So I am doing a fucking stupid thing and helping her get her license by letting her drive back and forth to school for practice. Yes, this is my brand new car with less than a thousand miles on it, and this is what I am talking about entering into a dangerous situation where I may get fucked but I know I am taking a chance and I am deciding to take the chance. So on break she takes the liberty of swinging over to McDonald's inside the parking lot so someone can buy her some lunch because she does not have much money. Did I mention she is black. She gets back and is not dishonest about it. But if some cop sees her in my car and decides to fuck with her because she is black I am not there to tell him it is my car. So she is messing me death when I tell her to just get me next time because I don't want shit happening so I have to impress it on her that I don't control the world and I don't want my helping her help her into a jail cell and ruin her going to class and working because something trivial and stupid. Plus, I have to be there for insurance purposes. The car is insured out the ying even for another driver, but not a permit driver without the owner of the car and they are black.

I don't know how else to explain it or get it through. In the first case it is just advice and I cannot make her think. In the second case I could have enabled a destructive situation that could have knocked this girl off the good track she has. She is just a kid, and I gotta be more adult and make sure to hold onto my keys. This is why I don't like hanging out with kids, but we are rammed into the same class and I should probably just not bother, but I do.

And they are black??? Lol...just unbelievable.

Unbelievable is you walking by a preschool without a hard on.

Did you read the rest of @Tererun 's post before getting on your high horse?

Also:

....that's not how that works. That's not how any of that works.

Help her by bringing her to the DMV and if you're feeling exceptionally generous, pay for her to get her license. Why the hell would you leave the keys to a brand new car with some random who doesn't even have a license and is so selfish and irresponsible she would take your car without your permission?