The Pile: A Piling List

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Bickendan, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Chaos Descending

    Chaos Descending 14th Level Human Cleric

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    Nothing. There's not a shred of news I can find that's any newer than that.

    That doesn't actually mean anything, since it could have either been BS that died on the vine, or real stuff that was swept under the rug.
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  2. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Fresh Meat

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    Perhaps she thought he could bring home the bacon and he thought she could Frye it up in the pan?
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  4. Steal Your Face

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    R. Kelly has been a Pilar of the community for decades, there’s no way he’d do anything last like that.























































































    Said nobody, ever.
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  5. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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  6. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I heard an interview on NPR this morning with a guy from Chicago who has been tracking R. Kelly's underage sex shenanigans for TWENTY YEARS and wrote a book about it. He said right now the total is 50 girls he exploited. He said it's the worst case of a powerful & successful celebrity getting away with it for so long. :no:
    Not accusing anyone else, but is it possible that his record label knew full well what he was doing, and looked the other way - or even got some crumbs off his table if you get my drift? :no:
    Thanks for ruining fifty lives shit-bag! Kelly should be like Denzel Washington at the end of Training Day:

    BILL COSBY AIN'T GOT SHIT ON ME!
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  7. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    People knew as early as 2003, when the first piss tape got out and Kelly's lawyers kept pushing the court date until the stature of limitations ran out on that.

    They just didn't care. :shrug:
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  8. Chaos Descending

    Chaos Descending 14th Level Human Cleric

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    I remember a Dave Chappelle skit that lampooned R. Kelly's alleged wet work. I got the impression that Mr. Chappelle didn't think R. Kelly was that bad of a guy.
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    Well, Kelly might have had to spend the night in jail because he couldn't make bail, but he did get some good news.

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  10. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Unfortunately, there's a lot of that in the black community, where every allegation against a celebrity is met with "The police is trying to take down rich black men!" To some extent, I kind of got it about Cosby because...well, it's Cosby, no one of a certain age wanted to believe that. But the piss tape has been out for the better part of two decades now.

    Ironically, the only celebrity people weren't quick to defend and back when his story came undone was Jussie Smollet, because homophobia trumps police hate for most straight black men. :garamet:
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  12. Chaos Descending

    Chaos Descending 14th Level Human Cleric

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    At this point, I think we need to just preemptively assume that all males who were in positions of power in Hollywood prior to 2018 are basically guilty of being sex perverts.

    It would just make things easier.
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  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    FTFY.

    Unless you believe that CEOs and middle managers are innocent because it ain't the movie industry. :bailey:
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    "Ironically, the only celebrity people weren't quick to defend and back when his story came undone was Jussie Smollet, because homophobia trumps police hate for most straight black men." - Shirogayne

    ironic to me because 90 percent of black men vote the democratic ticket.....the party of tolerance and sticking up for the underdogs & oppressed and whatnot.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    dude, you totally steal my job of calling you a racist when you post racist shit like this. I am, after all, one of the many legion of captain obvious.
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  16. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I've said plenty of times if the GOP gave up courting the racist vote, you'd get the Bible thumping Black Baptists on board in a heartbeat. :shrug:

    But no.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I believed all the white people when they said if you go to jail they are going to force you into a gang and make you do bad shit. I believed all that crap about jail being all dramatic and I was a little white guy in their box and they are going to have it out for me. Most of the people in jail are not that bad. They just did something wrong, most of the time just trying to get by, and they got busted for it. That is what most of the people are in the penal system. The truly terrible ones are sent to the terrible holes but most of the inmates are just bored as fuck and worried about their people on the outside. You could employ most of these people making public services and if you paid them a real wage while in prison they would get out in a better position and have a job. That will plunge recidivism to epic lows. That would be while we also improved society in some way and added money to the commercial sector because all of these employees will be consumers too. We may be at the point where the socialism economy engine could work along with a corporate modifier amplifying the effects.
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    So your basic argument is that most people commit crimes for economic reasons?
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    or you could just tell me how anything I just said is not factual. Drawing a blank? That's what I fucking thought.
  20. 14thDoctor

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    I'd say there are three sorts of crimes, broken down by motivation:

    -economic crimes
    -"crimes of passion"
    --crimes caused by mental illness

    IMHO. :async:
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  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    What about crimes of opportunity.
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    Still one of the 3. I've had the chance to commit some crimes of opportunity, but the motivation wasn't there. :shrug:
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    That is an interesting starting point for discussion, but incomplete. Taking for example the crime for which my city is most notorious, gang related shootings, all three factors could be in play: battles over drug-dealing turf (economic), revenge for previous killings (passion), and simply unhinged people taking the opportunity to wreak mayhem (mental illness). Lying beneath the surface is the exercise of power by one person or faction over another. That is probably a better way to look at the alleged crimes of those "on the pile," since none of the other categories seem to fit there.
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  24. Bickendan

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    Changed the tread title a bit.
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  25. 14thDoctor

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    Don't tread on me! :shakefist:
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  26. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-1

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  27. Dayton Kitchens

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    @Bailey, how does that table advance your argument? I would argue that most property crimes are not economically motivated.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It suggests that many more crimes are done for financial gain than other reasons.

    It's also well established that there is a direct correlation between poverty and crime rates.

    That certainly suggests that many crimes are being committed for economic reasons.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So argue, already. People commit property crimes just for shits and giggles?
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    Just because something is a "property crime" does not mean that it is economically motivated. A person can steal a car not because they want to resell it but because they have a personal beef with the owner.

    And the "direct correlation" between poverty and crime rate to me indicates that the same character flaws that lead to poverty also lead people to commit crimes.
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