This Land Was Stolen from Native Americans

In the context you just quoted: Because stupid people wrongly claim that the US is built on respecting property rights, and use that as an argument for capitalism; when in fact your point from the post before stands, the US is built on armed robbery -- again, as are most if not all other countries.

^ That hardly matters.

If you steal all of Africa's riches, haul them home to Europe, and spread them out evenly among all the western European people, you still stole all of Africa's riches. Of course, any given monarchy puts the lie to "spread evenly"

If you subsequently extol yourself for giving small portions of the fruits of that wealth back to Africa decades later and call it humanitarian aid, that only adds salt to the wound

To whom?

What a load of shit. The level of bile and historical revision from the left never ceases to amaze. America was built on armed robbery? Really? Get the fuck outta here with that shit. America may have been aquired partly through such methods. Try not to forget though that large portions of this country were purchased by the U.S. government from European swine like yourself.

The "European swine" *ahem* stole it from the Indians and THEN sold it to us (Louisiana purchase, etc.)

Yeah, so no one's hands are clean.

And yet, who cares? All of this happened before ANY of us were born!

The British stole the colonies from the Indians.

We seized the colonies from the British and then stole the rest of N. America for ourselves.

I love it!

Just like Wordforge!

They bought stolen property. And I doubt that Europeans owned very little if any of the great West.

Wait, Borgs is an Indian?

Yeah, but the dot kind, not the feather kind.

Or he's Pakistani.

Like it matter.

Exactly. Wordforge has been successfully stolen and vastly improved by real American ownership.

No, but Borgs was an Indian Giver!

You know what? Let's make up a story about how Borgs "stole" the board from Cass and see how many people we can get all up in arms about it. I bet whineforge will be all over it by nightfall.

Vastly improved?

I'm being a smartass all around.

Tas agrees!

So one set of Europeans stole the land, then sold it to another set of Europeans who paid for it with more stolen goods.

Btw, you have said exactly the same thing twice in this thread. The only "bile" you'll see from me is holding you to the truth of your words.

The physical existance stems from "armed robbery"....the system of government is predicated on property rights.

seems an obvious distinction to me...

Me, I'd generally put the statute of limitations at the death of the generation after the immediately affected one. So maybe some of the oldest Indians deserve reparations. But time is a great equalizer. Even the mightiest empires fall in time, and the poorest tribe will claim the land. Same thing for people - Mrs. Winchester, for the former example, Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie for the latter.

If you'll also limit inheritance in that way, that would be a great system.

If you like. But with that little temporal distinction, you have warped the meaning of "predicated on property rights" into "based on keeping what we stole".

Have you returned every resource stolen from Africa?

No, hardly any. That's the point. My position is that property rights are a joke and anyone who claims they base their morality, laws or government on them is a hypocritical liar coating their personal profit in an illegitimate morality, remember?

But how are they a joke?

Ah. A marathon maneuver.

What are you asking?

It sounds like you have just forgotten the whole rest of this thread, inclduing the bit you just quoted two posts ago, and the bit you yourself just posted two posts ago. Is that what you're asking me about? You want me to repeat your words to you?

This move to end property rights is just too similar to Europe wanting to end war, now that it has largely finished the era of its own infighting, nevermind the less stable situation in the rest of the world, which is largely of their making.

Similarly, Europe exploited the globe, taking everything that wasn't nailed down and much of what was, and still has the vast majority of that loot, and now you want to eliminate the concept of property rights.

How convenient for Europe, twice

I repeat: "This" move to end property rights started AT LEAST back in the 15th century.

When Europe has settled up with Africa, Latin America, the Indian subcontinent, etc., we can discuss it again...

I have to disagree with you on this. There were no property rights before the Europeans arrived. Indians didn't view land in that fashion. They said, "here, white man, farm this land, fish this stream." The Indian meant by this, "and tomorrow I will do the same, and then we will both move on." But the European wouldn't understand it as anything other than "I make no claim on this land, it is yours to have."