Thread Tags

If tags are used properly, they're a great SEO tool. It's sad folk are abusing them.

Maybe the admins can tell who posted which tag but I can't, so warning for tag trolling isn't possible.

Which is exactly why I suggested it be gotten rid of. I figured there was zero way to track it, same as the calendar events.

Which is entirely different than clicking on a thread tagged as pedophilia or nigger lynching.

Tags can be abused in any forum, but warnings can't be issued because of the inability to see who posted them. (Unless the admins/techs want to get involved in each and every instance, which would be a waste of time) Therefore, the feature should be dropped because of the preexisting rules and the inability to enforce them. The board at large was given a new tool to use, some of us abused it and ruined the possibility of a good new feature for everyone else. Wash our hands of it and move on. If a child abuses their privileges you take them away. Same principle here.

Looks like another case of you guys trying to do something nice for the membership and, given the propensities of certain members, just making more work for yourselves.

Absolutely. One way or another, board policy has to take into account "the propensities of certain members." If you don't want rules that punish bad behavior yet you still want an environment that fosters meaningful discussion, you need to deny to the board as a whole features that can be used disruptively by those members. Failure to do so means more work, more drama, more board space filled with discussion about policies and features, and less substantive discussion. That's just one of the sad facts of life.

Of course maybe wordforge isn't really about fostering meaningful discussion, and that's okay. Maybe wordforge is there for amusement value, and on the occasions when reasonable and meaningful discussion happens, that's just an unexpected bonus.

Oh, get over yourself, grannie (you too, Liet). In case you weren't paying attention, some of the propensities which were being exercised in tags were by those with whom you're cozy, wielded against those for whom you've got a pronounced disregard.

Plenty of blame to be spread around.

Looks like someone's forgotten what room he's in.

You know who sets those tags? Good. Then you can help the mods weed out the unhelpful ones.

By the way, what humanoid species produces two generations within 14 years?

He who lives by the rep shall die by the rep.

Chavs.

Even though the mods and admins can't, I (and probably Kyle) can. It's only a matter of the right Perl script, which I've been working on on and off since I first noticed the issue. I've got some time on my hands this weekend, so I just might get it finished.

I'm halfway there already. For instance, I know that, besides myself, Faceman, Zombie, Timmy, and Clyde posted or edited the tags in this thread.

If it's any help, the tags I added were "nahtmmm has smelly farts" after he said that he doesn't see the harm in thread tags, followed by "clyde is no fun " after that tag was deleted.

You really want to volunteer for the job of tracking down and warning people for misusing thread tags?

That's seriously the most valuable use of your time, micromanaging a completely unnecessary feature?

There is that. You can tell who posted a calendar event, though.

Which is entirely different from opening a forum with either topic mentioned in a thread title. Or maybe not, for the software at someone's work. I dunno.

I really don't much care about tags. I'm just hashing it out along with the calendar, I guess.

We lost five months worth of threads, can the search tool help me find those? If not, then fuck off, because he left nearly a month before the database was lost.

Kirk left?

No, you fuck off. If you don't have proof, then shut your cumsoaked faggot emo piehole. You expect any of us to take your word without proof? Yeah, that works real well around here.

Geez, this whole thread has turned into a clusterfuck, and again, it's the fault of the same damn pussies that followed us from TrekBBS wanting to put their personal set of matching pink panties and bra on this place instead of just go back there. I mean, why can't they leave us alone?

This place unsafe for work? Really? Well big fucking surprise there! It's been pretty damn unsafe since the very beginning. Deal with it. We have two guys bitching constantly about rep when more than 99% of the forum is fine just the way it is - in a topic not even related to rep. They need to be told to slit their wrists and die in an outhouse fire.

We lift the pedophilia rule, and now some people are trying to say because bad words are in thread tags instead of the actual posts, that we should just get rid of a potentially useful feature of the board?

Fuck you. And the trannies you rode in on.




Warn me, homies!

According to the vBulletin manual pre-approval of all tags is an option. So all the tags would be reviewed before being seen. Also you can ban certain words from appearing in tags, you could ban all usernames and common profanity. Same goes for the calendar.

I'd rather not go that route because it limits the enjoyment of those features and only becomes a game for trolls to work around. For example "shit" might be blocked but "$hit" would slide right on by.

As for attempts to allow you (and probably Kyle) to see who posted what tag, well, okay that's a start yet every member would need to see who posted what for that feature to be worthwhile.

[Edit - Seems hovering over tags in the edit tags screen shows who posted the tag.]

Yeah you've earned a warning here, so has Timmy but to a lesser extent because had you been warned for the initiating rep comment before Timmy responded he might've responded differently.

Anyway, the reason for being civil in our help forum is not to avoid warnings but because it is a help forum. Every member should feel comfortable asking questions, making requests or addressing board issues without having to deal with being trolled or flamed.

This thread brought up a legitimate concern but has since deteriorated into a flame fest.

Notice how resolving the legitimate concern has become lost in the mix?

Now you tell me, does a warning help drive this point home? Will this warning result in you not flaming in the Help Desk? Flaming less?

Cuz a flame-free Help Desk is the goal. And in my opinion this warning may well only add fuel to the fire.


And Timmy, knock it off.

In theory the thread tags allow search engines to better index the board, in turn leading to more people showing up to check us out. You know, bringing in new members. That's a major plus on keeping them.

The minus side is of course the abuse of the tags to do the usual juvenile shit. Maybe setting them to require approval/moderation is the way to go.

The majority seemed to agree that thread tags should be scrapped, with a slightly smaller consensus about getting rid of the events feature. At this point, it's up to the Admins to take action, not the rest of us.



Or is this one of those things like spamming in the Red Room, where the problem has to annoy an Admin personally before anything gets done about it?

You can't say you're surprised by the juvenile shit. So, yeah, requiring approval/moderation is the next step...toward eventually terminating them because some of the membership can't control themselves.

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The proof is currently 70 miles away on my home computer, which I won't have access to until next week. Sorry you feel so strongly about that.

Figures I'd go for the hardest solution when it's blindingly obvious...

I don't feel strongly about it. But obviously you do enough to tell me to fuck off. Oh well.

How do you have it 70 miles away anyhow? Do you have it saved on your hard drive or something?

I actually like the tags. I can't count how many times I've tried to search for a particular thread, then come up with ten or fifteen threads that have nothing to do with said topic.

It's lame to tag stuff with "Nigger Lynching" and all that, but on a scale of 1 to 100 of things worth fighting over, with 100 being the Mass Exodus of 2007, this would be a 5 at the most. We don't need warnings, and anyone who's afraid of getting fired over reading WF needs to STOP READING WF AT WORK!

Quoted for truth!

Do you really want people to find the board because they searched for lynching and pedophilia?

Personally I think the tags are ridiculous and unnecessary. We've gotten by fine for how long without them? Not sure my vote counts though.

Hey, we need all the members we can get.