Tobias Funke seems to be angry.

Let me be clear. None of my friends or family are fascists, but I do have one friend who is on his way to being one if he had his way. You labeling them as much does not make it true.

surrender accepted

Some of us old-school adults were taught to respect a lady, and to respect achievement. Some of us were taught that by about ten years old, at the oldest, one should outgrow thinking it's funny to insult people with vulgar, derogatory nicknames. Some of us would even go so far as to say that that is part of being "adult".

Why is that kind of gallantry a character fault to you? Do you like what it says about you, that you think defending a lady's honor is a bad thing?

You have shown, at the very least, that you are not with those who have the high moral ground. The "other side" might not have it either, but you and those like you certainly don't have it.

Funny how you're so eager to direct sexually charged insults at your soon to be Vice President, as I don't recall you making similar comments about Joe Biden when he was VP. There were certainly insults directed at Michelle Obama back then, which is weird, since I haven't seen you insulting the new FLOTUS with similar enthusiasm...

I wonder what the connection could possibly be.

Most people who knew what they were (and didn't like it) didn't once they took power out of fear, yes.

Before they got power, the records show many of their opponents didn't take them seriously.

So simple yes or no question: would it be fair to have called his supporters fascists before they took power?

not what you think it is genius. I didn't give a fuck about Biden when he was VP because he was invisible. All eyes (or at least mine) were on Obama. Harris however is very powerful (or presents herself as such) and will very likely become HMIC. There was no chance of Biden doing that as VP because Obama was at the top of his game mentally.

As for Michelle as first lady I thought much of what she did was silly, but no more than typical first lady stuff.
But if you have proof of me "insulting Michelle with enthusiasm" bring it bitch! That's what I fucking thought.
So you tried to play the race card (holy shit what a surprise!) and FAILED. Take your race obsessed ass out of here.

Typically a nickname is intended to draw attention to an attribute, action, or view of an individual. Sometimes to positively highlight it, usually to negatively amplify it.

What is it about Kamala that you are trying to draw attention to with the nickname Kamaltoe?

Yes.

And one reason many people didn't is because the idea of their friends and family outright supporting a fascist was absurd.

That's great. I don't think my friends and family supports fascism.

You have a really poor memory:

https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/tea-party-convention-found.107817/#post-2764217

What a fucking douchebag. I'm glad there are good ex-military people here, because OF has done next to nothing to commend himself to the service.

See, that whole "hero" thing just for putting on a uniform has always bothered me. Just like several here have had bad experiences with law enforcement, I've had plenty of bad experiences with active, reserve, NG, and retired service members. Truth be told, I'd wager 2/3rds of the ones I've met that served post-Korea were douchebags. Draftees, from a bygone era, have my sympathy. Volunteers, not so much.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, we should treat issues like PTSD and the plethora of other service related illnesses responsibly because that's the right thing to do. That said, those people who signed up or reenlisted after September, 2001 knew exactly what they were signing up for.

wow this is turning into some rocket science. Forget it. I'll go with Kommiela.

Have I ever claimed to be a hero? That said unless Useless Idiot looked at my service records how would he know how I conducted myself or what I contributed to the service?
And Elwood you said members should be treated for injuries and whatnot, but then you say members joining after 9-11 knew what they were getting into.
In many cases the people joining after 9-11 were the ones with the very serious injuries and PTSD and so on. I'm not quite getting what your saying here.
And Useless Idiot if you do 20+ years in the service you better be an attribute versus a liability, or you would be tossed out well before then. Just sayin'

and this picture has nothing to do with race and everything to do with lib intelligence in general. I see that somebody else in the thread said the early humanoid was a Tea Party member.
Hmmm.....saying Tea Party members are primitive cave men? So when I call Michelle a primitive cave man this is worse? Explain your thought process please.

C'mon, now. @Jenee says we're not allowed to pick on oldfella.

Lucy is your great-great-grandmother, too.

So why did you pick Michelle Obama as a counter example?

He couldn't decide between racism ("whatever she's supposed to be" - his exact words) and sexism (translated as "if I don't want to smite her like the fist of an angry god, no one else should") and he decided to go with both.

I can't believe I forgot to do this...

The electoral college map just blue itself.

She's the Novelty VP!

I'm not surprised.

What I'm saying is that outside of certain events (Grenada, Panama, Desert Shield/Storm, et al) there wasn't a whole lot going on in the post-Vietnam, pre-9-11 era. Nothing that would call for the massive mobilization in massive numbers like we've seen post 9-11. Even in Desert Shield/Storm, we didn't deploy the numbers and types that we did post-9-11. I'm friends with a retired Regular Army O-5 that served his whole career (1975-ish - 1995-ish) and never left North America except on vacation.

If you enlisted in the US Army in 1984 or 1993, you had a relatively safe gig. Even then, the people in charge knew that the Soviets weren't going to come charging down the Fulda Gap. Now, that's a very different story for someone who enlisted in, say, 2005. Someone signing up in 2010 knew the US was engaged in a perpetual war and would likely end up in places they don't want to be doing things they don't want to do.

Of course, some people actually like the opportunity to meet interesting new people in foreign lands (and kill them).

But yeah. Most ex-military people I know don't have many good things to say about the service whether they saw combat or not. And then there are those for whom the military was like high school--their glory days. Usually those are the jerkoffs who can't shut up about having served.

That's how I ended up in the Navy. My mom had the idea that was safer than the other branches.

I narrowly escaped being a Seabee.

I enlisted (the first time) in 1980 and retired in 2006 so I'm well aware of the Cold War versus holy shit war comparisons of likely danger.

Are you aware of the concept of circular logic?

It’s his favorite kind!

Don't go disparaging circular logic. It is by far the most efficient logic. Suppose your goal is to prove "X":

1) Start with "X", which is known to be true.
2) Anything which tends to disprove "X" is therefore known to be false and can be dismissed as irrelevant, fake news, faulty data, cheating, or all of the above.
3) Concluion: "X".

There is no other approach to logic which gives such quick and assured results. This is where we see that "QED" really does mean "Quite Easily Done"!