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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yes.
  2. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    So you understand how:
    My friends and family wouldn’t support a fascist.
    My friends and family support Trump.
    Therefor Trump can’t be a fascist.

    Is circular logic right?
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I’m not saying Trump can’t be fascist because my friends and family wouldn’t support fascists. I’m saying my friends and family aren’t fascists and they don’t support fascists.
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    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    That’s actually not circular logic at all. It’s factually wrong and self-serving, but it is logically valid. You’d need “Trump isn’t a fascist.” as the first premise to make it circular logic.
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  5. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Gotcha.

    Make it so.
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    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    If they support Trump, then yes, you are saying the former, and logically entailing that Trump is not a fascist. Problem is, it’s not true, and they are supporting a fascist.
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Trump is not a fascist. You’re stretching the meaning of the word fascist. But leftists do that a lot when they broad brush and call people racists and Nazis.
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  8. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Again, what is the meaning of the word fascist? If you're going to argue on the definition, at least give us your definition.
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  9. Torpedo Vegas

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    I don't know if Trump meets the definition of a typical fascist. He doesn't give a damn about the 'State.' IMO he's a narcissistic authoritarian who only cares about himself and his power over others. He didn't run for president because he wanted to change the country. He ran because it's the shiniest bauble in the world. He's like a douchier Scrooge McDuck.
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  10. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Have you, by chance, been in a coma since November 2015? Fascism is historically defined by two key markers. Ultra-nationalism and authoritarianism.

    Trump has demonstrated his love for authoritarianism so many times that no one need even bother questioning it. As for Ultra-nationalism, I don't know if he really believes it or not, but he puts on a good show for his base. His base certainly believes it. So, if it walks like a duck, flies like a duck, swims like a duck, and quack's like a duck...
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  11. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Those aren't ducks, that's Federal Farmer's family.
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  12. Torpedo Vegas

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    Trump himself may not be a fascist--I don't think he has the sophistication to choose a political philosophy--but you're right. He certainly isn't opposed to fascism if it nets him him what he wants.

    And it goes without saying he has no particular love of democracy. Anyone who believes that is a fool.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    "He certainly isn't opposed to fascism if it nets him him what he wants." - opinion
    "And it goes without saying he has no particular love of democracy' - opinion
    "Anyone who believes that is a fool." - opinion

    "Trump has demonstrated his love for authoritarianism so many times that no one need even bother questioning it." - and there we have it folks! We don't need facts, no need to question what is obvious to those who know better than the unwashed masses who dare to have their own opinion or think differently. Kind of an authoritarian way to think, but that's Liberalism 101 in a nutshell. The court of public opinion has spoken!
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  14. Torpedo Vegas

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    "If anyone is wondering how Trump's dick tastes, ask oldfella." - fact
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    He wanted to be an authoritarian president. He makes decisions and others do as he commands. He tried running this country like he does his business. He is a fascist. Our country is not fascist. It’s a democracy. And that’s the part he just couldn’t understand. And that’s why is followers want him to stay in office. They like the idea of unilateral decisions that benefit one part of the population but is detrimental to another.

    Regardless of political savvy, he is a fascist.
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    The Court of OpinionFacts will tell you that Trump has changed his political party five times in his public career.

    The Court of Facts will tell you that the only public statements of loyalty he has made are things like “I love money… especially other people’s money.”
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  17. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    Speaking of a love for authoritarianism...
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/mcc...cks-section-230-repeal-election-fraud-2020-12

    How dare those dastardly Democrats!?!?
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  19. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    hey, I was curious after your mom told me how great it was - fact
  20. Torpedo Vegas

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    So...my mother sucked Trump's dick. And after hearing her enthusiastic review of the experience, you decided to...suck his dick too? In what way should I be insulted here? Is this how they trash talk in the Army?
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I won't discuss the "trash talk". Everybody says I talk about my military experiences too much, so I'm taking their advice and reducing it.
    Regardless I'm glad you are proud of your mom's dick sucking experiences, and I'm sure she is proud of yours. Did she teach you herself?
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  22. Torpedo Vegas

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    I'm sorry, all I hear is SLURP SLURP SLURP KAMELTOE HARRIS IS GONNA TAKE AWAY MY RATS SLURP SLURP SLURP
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  23. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Oh I'm quite sure Harris is dead-set on taking away a lot of folks' rights. That's not a female thing it's a liberal thing. Enjoy your soup!
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  24. Torpedo Vegas

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    Evidence...? Oh wait, she's a Democrat. Being Black and female has NOTHING to do with it. NOTHING. How long before you and your ilk start calling her 'strident?' The Hillary-ization of Kameltoe Harris must begin!
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    you are correct when you say being black(ish) and a female has nothing to do with it. When are you and your ilk going to stop looking for race/gender issues under every rock? Oh who am I kidding you fuckers are spray painting both sides of the rock so nobody can miss it. I can't wait until 20 Jan 2021 when the Democrats begin to tear each other and the country limb-from-limb.
    If I'm wrong - and I hope I am - it will be despite the actions of the Democrats not because of them.
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  26. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    That's not trash talk. This is:

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  27. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    yes Garamet that is a fine example of the "trash talk" that we should all try our best to avoid in a civil society.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Literally no one has ever said that :garamet:
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Yes they have, maybe yesterday or a few days ago. Shooter was one member, but there were others. I don't want to be a repetitive bore so I'm taking their advice.
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  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So you'll stop, then?

    P.S. @shootER's a veteran. You know how you didn't know? (Well, aside from the fact that you're oblivious to a lot of things.) BECAUSE HE DOESN'T MENTION IT IN EVERY THIRD POST!
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