Trouble in America

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, May 27, 2020.

  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    No danger of anyone ever kneeling on his neck... they wouldn't be able to find it.
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  2. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    In all this, I've missed what the poor guy is supposed to have done to be arrested in the first place.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I think he was drunk and trying to forge a check in a store or something. Basically Otis on the Andy Griffith show kind of stuff, with Barney kneeling on Otis' neck. Sadly it's just not funny in real life like it is on TV. :(
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    Zombie dead and loving it

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    He paid for something with a fake $20 bill.

    That’s what he was killed over.
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  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    so I was right - the Andy Griffith Show level of crime. That kind of shit happens in the Augusta area all the time. Cuff em' & stuff em' and put their picture in The Jail Report. It's not rocket science folks!
  6. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    What trouble?

    They beating white cop asses. :shrug:
  7. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    you know Minneapolis has black cops, right? And that one of the four cops involved in Floyd's death was black, right? Just wondering
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Fuck that bitch too :)
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  9. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I'm a little late to this thread. But there is something I do want to add in to the conversation.

    Back in '05-'06 I was hired and worked as an LEO. I'm no longer there or have been for well over a decade. But part of the process was training and certification. When I watched the first video, the first thing that came to me was that the officer had George Floyd in a position that was prime for positional asphyxia. The training I went through emphasized that the position that Floyd was in would cause positional asphyxia, and is against agency policy. That at no time, that a suspect in restraints (handcuffs) was to be placed face down on their stomach, and that at no time that a restrained person would have someone placing their weight on a person in that position while restrained. In other words, never put a handcuffed person on their stomach and/or kneel on someone on their stomach in handcuffs.

    And as far as I know, pretty much every department or agency has similar guidelines or policies.

    The officer should have know that what he was doing would/could kill someone. You can even try it for yourself. Get on the floor, put your hands behind your back with your wrist together. And then bend your head back, like Floyd;s head was. With the officers knee on his neck, it's like kinking a straw. Even though Floyd was able to speak, it doesn't mean he could breathe. Take a regular, expel it, you can still speak several words. Once you can't speak anymore, a very shallow breath will still let you speak a few words.

    At the very least, that officer should be convicted of manslaughter or negligent/wrongful death, The other officers, should held with negligence at the very least for not stopping what was happening or sitting Floyd upright.
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  10. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Thank you. I was pretty sure that this was not part of any police procedure but didn't want to say so without knowing first. The officer was just being a dick.
  11. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    And the plot thickens even more....


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  12. MikeH92467

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    I saw a report that indicates the killer cop had a history of complaints of excessive force. I don't have the link, if it's correct we'll see confirmation soon enough. The report indicated that the cop was never disciplined for any of them. I guess we can make whatever we want of that. Perhaps even more disturbing was the claim (that's all I'm going to call it: a "claim") that the Minneapolis Police have a history of abusive behavior. There was also the claim (again, I'll note it's a claim, nothing more at this moment) that the current mayor told the police to quit using a controversial training method that sounds like something straight out of a KGB/Gestapo handbook. The police union head pitched a shit fit over that and the union wanted to offer the training out of its own pocket.

    If (IF) all that is true, Minneapolis has a big, long-standing mess to clean up. Even if those reports are exaggerated, there's obviously a huge perceptional problem.
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  13. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    It was a part of the Klobuchar link that Night Funky posted

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/9169...-prosecute-officer-center-george-floyds-death

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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Support protests in other cities are happening.

    Denver tonight:

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    Karen Behind The Wheel!!!!
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  17. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    He may not have even known it was fake, I bet. :/
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  18. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Five points!
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    State Security Forces are determined to escalate this.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Twitter, so take it with a big heaping grain of salt, but:

    edit: Removed since it seems to be doesn't seem to be well substantiated.
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  21. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    the murdering officer may have had the same training you did. But here's the difference - the murdering officer doesn't-give-a- fuck. He's already had 18 formal complaints against him over the years. Obviously up until a few days ago he couldn't be fired. He had to kill a suspect to finally lose his job. So why the hold fuck isn't everyone on that force - starting from the top down - fired as of right now? The leadership sets the stage and tone of a military unit, so I can only assume the same thing applies to cops. It's basic psychology - people will get away with whatever they can get away with.
    18 formal complaints pretty much means that murderer got away with whatever he wanted to, whenever he wanted and Floyd paid the price. Bear in mind this is the only time he was caught on video.
    Dollars-to-donuts that whole group of cops did shit similar to this all the time, but this time it went south on them.

    And color me skeptical but the mayor has to know something about how fucked up his cops are. :chris: All that public "this will not be tolerated" talk is blowing smoke and CYA talk. Obviously it was being tolerated for years! In most cities the mayor is very much responsible and involved with their police force.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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  24. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Fresh Meat

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    Screenshot_20200528-231852_Gallery.jpg Heck of a protest they've got going there.

    #LETITBURN
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    Livestream currently showing them setting a police station alight. Holy shit.
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  27. Ancalagon

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  28. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    holy fuck.. they've breached the police station!
    cops arent there
  29. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    If not a cop, definitely a Boogaloo Boi. :brood:
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  30. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Riots on the streets of Minneapolis!
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