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  1. Steal Your Face

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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    That reminds me, what's the big deal about Peter Dinklage, it's like he was in everything for a while. Maybe his wardrobe cost is smaller than others, and it was a cost saving measure?
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    I've watched it again recently and I did enjoy it better once I accepted that it subverted my expectations, but it seemed as though all of the instances in the show where we thought Dany was learning things as we went along only to revert back to her "Fire & Blood" ways was still disappointing. And I still did not see any valid motivations for her most heinous actions. But this isn't about that... I've actually thought about reviving that thread a few times.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    He was just in "3 Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri".
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    AlphaMan The Last Dragon

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    So it seems as if this is going to end on a cliffhanger.... which would’ve been OK if Dr. Strange 2 was going to be out later this year but it seems like it won’t be out before late 2022.

    If I’m being honest, although the ep was good, I was a little underwhelmed by this one. It seems like they’ve retconned Wanda’s MCU origin to be more fitting with the Marvel Mutants origin. But am I the only one who was unimpressed when Agatha declared that Wanda was “THE SCARLET WITCH!”
    I was like: Whoopty-Doo. We knew that.

    We did learn that Wanda did indeed create the anomaly and at least Agatha thinks she’s controlling everything and anybody inside it... but I have a feeling that there is another and deeper level to all this... and it’s going to involve out mysterious superstar cameo next week.
    Last guess? Benedict Cumberbatch, for sure, but I believe that in addition to him will be...


    Giancarlo Esposito! Gus Fring himself in his MCU debut!
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  6. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Yeah, I was disappointed by this one too. Yes, she's the Scarlet Witch. Duh. Guess we'll see how they wrap it up.

    But Pietro just being an illusion? Why wouldn't Agatha just make the illusion look like her brother then? I know the answer is they couldn't get the original actor, but it doesn't make sense in the story. So write a story where it makes sense, and they didn't do that.

    And IIRC we saw a scene where Wanda took the Vision's body earlier in the story. Unless they explain that one, it just makes it look like bad writing.

    Agnes may indeed have written Season 8 of game of thrones - at least we didn't have to wait seven seasons for it to be crap.
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  7. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    I'd say Fake Pietro wins me the bet.
  8. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    In spirit, I grant you. Though there's still one episode left.

    "Basically, any variation on it being a fake Pietro who is a disgiused version of someone Agatha is working with or for, or someone working for her, i win."

    If I wanted to be an ass, I would have said 'This was not a disguised version of anyone, per her it was an illusion made up whole cloth.'

    But I'm not that petty.

    Still, it doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense for her to make a version of Pietro she could make any way she wanted and it not be the Pietro of this universe. Again, pretty crappy writing, if true.

    But they still have one episode left, so let's see if they clarify that at all. My guess is not, but it's still possible.
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    You're being kind. I was a lot underwhelmed by this one. Maybe the rest of the series set my expectations too high.

    The post-credits scene almost made it worthwhile, though.

    Almost.
  10. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    This one was dull. Nothing new was exposed. Everyone already speculated Wanda created this reality due to her depression. I know she’s the scarlet witch. Um. I guess we learned that she didn’t steal vision and he’s her own creation. But that doesn’t explain his independence unless she’s that powerful.
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  11. The Original Faceman

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    Also last week we were told Agatha did it all. There’s a song even.

    And this week we were told she didn’t do it all. Hardly any. Just stumbled upon it. Maybe lived there coincidentally. All she did was send Fietro as a spy.
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  12. AlphaMan

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    One thing doesn’t make sense... So... Agnes has been trying to provoke Wanda into displaying her powers all along. She presumably gave Sparky to the boys and later killed him in order to get Wanda to bring him back to life. It’s not until Wanda publicly displays her powers that Agatha reveals herself...

    Anyway, Wanda is adamant that she can’t bring people back to life... or create life... and she always denies that she is controlling everybody and everything in Westview.

    But in this episode, we see Wanda create a facsimile of Vision and create the bubble and do exactly that. Something is off. The mystery is not over... or the writing really sucks.
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  13. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    The reveal of The Scarlet Witch name drop was underwhelming, but I thought the rest of the episode was quite heartfelt. This was her origin story so of course they had to include the name drop so I liked it. Fake Pietro makes no sense so I still think there's more to it. It looks like they're definitely making Wanda a mutant or mutant adjacent and bringing mutants into the MCU. Looks like she didn't steal Vision's body so was that just a cover story they told Monica because maybe Monica wouldn't be down with what SWORD is doing? Their was a lot Malcolm In the Middle references in this episode, could that be a hint that maybe Bryan Cranston is showing up? Another thing about fake Pietro, Agatha says that she used mind control or something like that, but I still wouldn't rule out Evan Peters being Xverse Quicksilver. Overall I still liked this episode quite a bit despite the underwhelming name drop.
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I'd imagine there's a couple of more shoes to drop.
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    I liked seeing more of Wanda’s backstory.
    They probably could have cut out the opening scene with Agatha and the other witches. Didn’t really seem relevant to what else was going on.

    If the Vision that exists inside the Hex is entirely Wanda’s creation how does he have independent thought? Similarly, if the kids are entirely Wanda’s creation why are they resistant to her magic?

    Is it because this chaos magic is uncontrollable, even to the one doing the magic?

    The white Vision at the end reminds me of that old Avengers arcade game where you could play as Cap, Iron Man, Hawkeye, or the white Vision.

    Turns out Fietro is just a mind controlled henchman, nothing more significant than that. Nice fake out though.
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    I liked it, felt organic to me to build up a rational for how/why Wanda could have come to the point of creating the Hex.

    My curiosity is that the flashback seemed to imply that the burst of magic that created the Hex basically pulled the actual parts of Vision into the town - literally his body - but the post credit scene implied SWORD still had the original body so I'm probably misreading something
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  17. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So the theory Mr. Sunday Movies had (yes, yes, a Youtuber, god knows you guys hate YouTube) was that when Wanda "created" Vision, the magic "lazers" that came out of her were yellow and not her usual red. Yellow is of course the color of the mind stone.Wanda kills Vision in Infinity War and it's presumed his spirit it in the mind stone, but maybe Vision's spirit went into Wanda. Then we have white Vision which is just a mindless drone so maybe Vison's spirit merges with white Vision and he is reborn.
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    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    And then they go back to the '80s and save the whales?
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  19. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yes, they even mentioned TSFS in their video.
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    But why is Agatha Harkness a villain? IIRC she was never a villain in the comics.
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    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    Uh

    Agatha defended herself against a murder attempt, then "killed" a dog who may never have been alive and committed three counts of kidnapping/false imprisonment and one count of battery.

    Wanda continues to hold thousands of innocents captive under constant torment as she suppresses their true selves.

    Who's being more villainous here?
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    True, considering her a "villain" by comparison is probably a hasty judgment.
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    Ok... so I know that I promised no more speculation in regards to the finale’s superstar cameo teased by Paul Bettany but I got another one.... Now hear me out on this... He said it was someone he’s been dying to work with all of his life and he’s surprised no one has revealed who it was given this star’s high profile.
    I’ve said Benedict Cumberbatch, Hugh Jackman, Al Pacino and Giancarlo Esposito.... but what if Paul Bettany was just fucking with us? In the post credit scene, we see the white Vision come online and presumably, there will be a battle between Vision and white supremacist Vision... what if the Star Bettany’s wanted to work with all this time was HIMSELF?

    Just watched this episode again and I have to admit it’s growing on me. Not a lot happened to push the plot forward but I find myself touched by Wanda’s suffering and how she used the TV shows to ease her pain after losing everybody in her life... and how Vision was able to get to her by sharing it with her. “What is grief if not proof that love perseveres?” Very poetic and profound. Having lost my Mom, Dad, Brother and Aunt, this episode touched in a way I didn’t expect.
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    That was about possibility that Mr. Sunday Movies brought up. That would be kind of funny, but ultimately disappointing.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    There's certainly precedent for shows that lie to drum up fan interest - Lost was probably the most obvious example of this, when the producers said 'this is definitely not an afterlife story, this has a scientific base' and of course it turned out to be an afterlife story.

    We'll see how it shakes out tomorrow, but looks like at this point to me that they made multiple decisions to drive this speculation forward, and I'll think quite a bit less of the show if that turns out to be true.

    Look at how GoT was heading for legendary status and completely derailed itself, and is no longer talked about except to be mocked.

    Oh, right, you didn't get that either. :D
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    Game of Thrones:

    80% Metacritic score
    9.3 out of 10 at IMDb
    89% at Rotten Tomatoes

    I'd say that I'm not the one who doesn't get it. :shrug:

    EDIT: for the record, I do think the series finale was weak as shite but I'm not going to judge the entire series based on that.
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  29. We Are Borg

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    Anyway, to paraphrase the immortal Shat...

    If your joy in life is contingent on a television show, GET A LIFE!
  30. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Well, we can't all be such a powerful internet maestro that we start threads on *checks notes* how shitty streaming services are. :D

    In other news, Bettany confirmed he was just trolling. Peachy.
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