https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/paul-bettany-trolled-wandavision-fans-164349568.html Al Pacino as Mephisto would’ve rocked.
Yeah, massively underwhelmed. Great actors, Olsen, Bettany and Hahn were fantastic, and the period pieces for the shows were well done. But the final reveal was a large let down, the marketing was better than the show, and using the X-verse Pietro actor was just a fuck you. OK, Raoul, let me know what you want my sig to say for the next month. But I was right in one key aspect, the character of Pietro was being mind controlled, which you said made no sense.
Really? I still liked it, even though nothing of what I expected to happen happened. No X-men, no Al Pacino, no Dr. Strange. I was a little put off to realize that Wanda did indeed harm the people of Westview, albeit involuntarily. This is something she’s going to have to atone for and the reason why I like MCU movies. The heroes make mistakes and it how they deal with them that makes them good people. They have “layers.” oh well.... 2 weeks until Falcon & The Winter Soldier!
I liked it. Didn’t answer all my questions but we still have tons of movies and shows to look forward to. A Strange cameo would have been nice but we already know Wanda is a major character in Doctor Strange 2 so I guess her story will pick up there. I am surprised that Strange never approached her after the battle in Endgame or at the funeral. He must have realized what she was. I was not expecting any X-Men references in this show... people have to keep their expectations realistic. This show was mainly about Wanda and Vision as well providing an origin story for Photon/Monica. It wouldn’t make sense to expect more than that. I don’t even know if the FOX deal had been finalized yet when this show was being scripted. We will get an MCU version of the X-Men eventually but the universe is already pretty crowded with characters and plot lines, both cosmic and terrestrial.
Each commercial seemed to reference a notable event in Wanda’s life or a current event. The blinking Stark toaster represented the Stark bomb which hit her house. The Hydra watch of course represented her time when allied with them. Maybe the Hydra soap represented her joining the Avengers to atone or ‘wash away’ or her time with Hydra. Lagos paper towels represented the ‘mess’ she created in Lagos which sparked the events of Civil War. The shark trying to take the boy’s Yo Magic yogurt probably represented Agatha trying to take Wanda’s magic. The decomposing child was similar to the witches whom she drained in Salem. The Nexus pills might reference the Multiverse which will come into play in Doctor Strange. Could also reference the Nexus computer system which Ultron was trying to infiltrate and which Jarvis/Vision was protecting.
I liked the series overall, but the last episode was underwhelming. I think we all built up in our heads what we thought was going to happen and it didn’t help that they trolled us with Evan Peters and Betany trolled us as well. I think this is good as a one off. I don’t think it needs any more than this. I liked the proper Scarlet Witch costume and hopefully she’ll continue with that one going forward. I look forward to seeing her in Dr. Strange 2. Next up, Falcon and Winter Soldier. I do want to give Marvel credit though for reinvigorating my excitement for the MCU.
That was made clear when Vision snapped his office co-worker out of Wanda's influence. Yeah, I'm seeing some people in here a little put out that the show didn't fulfill all the grand throw-ins they worked themselves up to expecting. The creators kept the storyline focused on Wanda and the direct fallout of her actions and that's good enough for a nine-episode series. Part of the outside world reacting to Wanda + trying to deal with the villain: Monica doubled as the superhero and military worlds, Nasal Asian was government, Thor Girl was civilian. Together they form . . . this complete breakfast!
I liked it well enough, I didn't really have the lofty expectations that seemed to prevail online. I thought the scenes with the two Visons were well played. But the one thing that really annoyed the fuck out of me - PseudoVision "fixes" White Vision and he...just leaves? WTF was that about?
White Vision now has the full knowledge (and programming? And Thor's influence?) of the old Vision, allowing him to make his own moral choices, and he now considers killing Wanda or Pseudovision to be wrong. Or something fluffy about you can only hate what you don't understand.
So far so good for stopping the fight. But as far as we are shown, he realizes he's Vision and just flies off to parts unknown. Why does he not (as far as we know) assist Wanda in her fight with Agatha, help evacuate the civilians from Westview, stop the SWORD people, etc.? Where does he go and why?
One thing I forgot to mention was the ship of Thesious discussion that the two Visions had. That’s a classic nerd fight over whether the Enterprise from TMP is the same Enterprise from TOS.
It's a fair question. Out of universe it's probably "because they wanted the protagonists to solve their problems without a great white deus ex machina". In universe, I could spitball but I'm sure they'll answer in the future.
LOL, fair enough. Though I was far from the only one who was wrong about... everything. None of your theories were right either, and indeed, the thing that annoyed you enough to want to do the bet you were completely and obviously wrong about.
OK, funky. My signature and about sections of my profile are greyed out and I can't make any changes?!?! I'll try again later, if that doesn't work I'll ask the admins to resolve, and if for some reason there's a problem with the board I'll send you the $50 that you originally posited instead. Sorry for the inconvenience. Edit: Never mind, found it. You have your pound of flesh, Raoul.
I kind of think your post here has the benefit of hindsight. There were several things that the show/showrunners did that piqued speculation AFAIC. The casting of Evan Peters playing the same character Pietro was a straight up troll. If X-verse Pietro made it to the MCU then why wouldn't we expect the rest of the cast/characters make it over soon? Paul Bettany also commented that there would be a superstar cameo in the final episode and was shocked that no one caught on to it at the time... and he doubled down on it at least once before revealing he was trolling. And not for nothing, Wanda repeatedly denied that she was responsible for the bubble, and controlling everyone in town. And the show started out as a mystery. It invited speculation from the start. I thoroughly enjoyed the show and I have to admit that the speculation was part of my enjoyment... Even if it didn't pan out as I thought.
Well, my initial reaction was annoyance at the blatant trolling, but considering how long Marvel has invested in mining things later, we could end up seeing it having some relevance down the pike. I mean, look at Cap's journey - the insult by Stark that the best part of him came out of the lab, the attempt to pick up Thor's hammer in Age of Ultron, and then showing he was worthy at the end of Endgame, which just in the Avengers line was 4 movies later, and was about a dozen movies released in the universe between the two. We could end up seeing Pietro being relevant several years later.
Fair enough. I just have an attitude of taking my entertainment as it comes these days and not getting too possessed by the thought of "it must turn out this way or that way" or staking my pride on outguessing the writers. Also I'm not into the X-Men, so I never really cared about that part other than "well that's a cute twist, I bet the people who recognized him went nuts". I got what I wanted at the start, old-timey sitcoms starring Wanda and Vision, and then they used that to hook me into the mystery of what all was going on, and then there was some fun action to go with the funny and things happened and people were superheroic and now, as someone upthread said, I'm more invested in the MCU than I have been since Endgame. So it's a win in my book. My question would be what happened with Agatha? Wanda set it up like she was going to leave Agatha as a prisoner in the simulation FOREVAHH, but then she shut down the simulation. So what's Agatha up to now?
The spell Wanda put on Agatha turning her into the Agnes personality she faked was (presumably) independent of the Hex. So even after Wanda took down the Westview spells, Agatha is going to still have Agnes's personality. Of course, Agatha doesn't really have a residence in Westview, so there's a question about where she's going to live, how she's going to earn a living. We can fanwank that Wanda's spell stops Agatha from just peacing out of Westview at all. We also pretty much have to fanwank that the back-to-normal Westview residents aren't freaked out by this woman who is acting like she's stuck in a 60s sitcom. It also seems like Wanda left enough of the real Agatha's personality in there, because there seemed to be an edge to the "Not if I see you first" line that she has. I wouldn't be surprised if the show ever has a follow-up if Wanda comes to regret what she did.
Speaking of followups: 'WandaVision' director says that fans disappointed by the true identity of Evan Peters' character should be patient "WandaVision" director Matt Shakman says that fans disgruntled by the reveal about Evan Peters' true role on the Marvel show should hang tight. "For the fans that were disappointed, I'm just going to say: you know that those things are coming, right? The multiverse is coming. Mutants are coming. So, there you go," Shakman said in a new interview with Entertainment Tonight. https://www.yahoo.com/news/wandavision-director-says-fans-disappointed-183739066.html Hmmmm....
Okay, so this is a bullshit slideshow about the series. Honestly, don't bother clicking on it because the behind-the-scenes shit they talk about isn't terribly interesting as they don't give you any fucking details about the coolest shit! See, the producers of Wandavision were so keen to get the 50s/60s-era sitcoms right that they went and talked to Dick Van Dyke. Pretty fucking cool and hardcore, right? But we don't know WTF Dick told them! Seriously, it's the 21st Century, everybody carries a recording device on them and you're talking to a Hollywood legend about a groundbreaking TV series (Mary Tyler Moore was the first woman to wear pants on TV) but you won't share with us what he said??? In the early 70s, the comedy greats like Groucho, Bob Hope, George Burns, and others would all have lunch together one day a week, where they'd sit around and shoot the shit at an exclusive club. My fucking god, what I wouldn't give to have been a fly on the wall during those conversations. Recording that shit would have been impractical back then, but today? It's the easiest fucking thing in the world. Yeah, sure, those guys would have said things that were offensive, but are you going to tell me that guys' who'd been working in comedy for fifty fucking years, from before the Great Depression until the 70s hadn't figured some shit out? And even if all they talked about was they were having trouble taking a shit, they'd be goddamned funny at it.
