What if there were a cure for being gay?

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    Many Star Trek fans want a gay character or a transgender character or both in future Star Trek productions. I wonder, have those people ever considered that maybe there's a cure for those things in the future and that's why there's no gays on the Enterprise? Has anyone ever considered what if there were a cure in real life? Much like the cure for the X gene, would gays go for it? Would it be controversial? Which side would supporters of gay rights take? Discuss.
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    It would be like "curing", blue eyes, why bother?
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    A "cure for being gay"?

    Go fuck yourself. What will you be exploring next, a "cure" for being black? :dayton:

    Teenage twat. :jayzus:
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  4. Steal Your Face

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    Are you saying there's a recessive gene that makes people gay?
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    Are you saying there isn't?
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    Has science proved there is?
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    No, it hasn't. However it's a humdinger hypothesis.
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    Presumes facts not in evidence. A cure requires a disease.
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    It could be a mental disease.
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    The fact is we don't know, everyone just assumes that because they don't want to call it a mental disease anymore.
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    It will be cured because parents would prefer not to have gay babies, which will probably be sometime after we've develop a pre-natal diagnostic so parents can decide whether to abort the child.
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    It has not been considered as such since 1975.

    Phobias on the other hand may be debilitating.

    Scientists don't assume anything.
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    I didn't say scientists, I said everyone.
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    I don't care what "everyone" thinks on the subject unless they interfere with people's civil rights.
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    I would make a distinction between homosexual attraction and "being gay," which is a social construct likely to fade somewhat with the widespread acceptance of homosexuality. Either way, there is no need for a "cure," unless you mean a cure for ignorance and bigotry.

    In the Star Trek future, having a preference for men over women is probably like having a preference for blondes over brunettes. Just not significant enough to mention most of the time.
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    Mental health professionals took it out of the DSM decade ago. Next.
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    No, male homosexuality will be pretty much gone by then. Again, it will be the parents decision. They won't be having hardly kids with a epilepsy, schizophrenia, Down's Syndrome, and a host of other conditions either. As Francis Crick once noted, we'll probably cure stupidity because we can see which proteins are important in brain development, so we will be able to intervene and make genetically stupid people have the brain functions of genetically smart people.
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    What if the writers of some future show or movie were to say there's a cure which is why you don't see gay's in Star Trek, would you accept that? If there were some magical cure and parents didn't want there kids to grow up being gay and administered the cure, would you accept that?
    If a gay person suffered their whole lives for being gay and wanted to cure themselves so they could be "normal", would you accept that?
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    Eugenics is considered one of the most serious crimes under Federation law. :finger:
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    Doesn't prove anything. If mental health professional said there's no such thing as schizophrenia would you say, "oh well, I guess it doesn't exist"?
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    I would not favor such a development, and indeed can't really envision a scenario where a writer would deem it necessary to make such comments.

    Magical cure? Really? What if parents could magically transform their scrawny bookworm into a 7-foot tall black man so he could play in the NBA? Would you accept that?

    The only reason people have ever "suffered" for being gay is due to the aforementioned ignorance and bigotry. I'd rather cure that instead.
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    No, being gay produces a pretty short lifespan. It's far worse than chain smoking.
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    Except they didn't say that.
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    It would be exactly like the mutant cure in the X-Men, except with less snikt, Emma Frost cleavage and optic blasts.
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    If it were curable, Soma would try to shutdown any and all research into a cure.
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    A cure implies a problem.
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    Having a life expectancy about 20 years shorter than heterosexuals would be one aspect of that problem.
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    Do you have a publisher? I just wondered, since all you write is fiction.
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