What if there were a cure for being gay?

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    As long as he doesn't touch anyone, or send some kids dick pics, I don't give a fuck what happens inside his head.
    This isn't "Minority Report".
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  2. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    What do gay men think the purpose of semen is?
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  3. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    That's not what I asked. What I asked is whether there is something wrong with the pedophile. Is there?
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  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Has anyone said that?
  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well, that's a loaded question.
    Is it "wrong", for him to act on his urges?
    Yeah. The kid can't legally consent, and pedophilia is always by definition predatory.
    And we've decided as a society we don't like creepers fuckin' our kids.
    Is he "wrong", to the core of his being?
    Well, that gets into mystical mumbo-jumbo talk.
    "Wrong", is a value assigned by society, not a manichean force in the cosmos like the Dementors, or the Ring Wraiths.
    When you start getting into are people "wrong", for even existing, that starts down the road to Hitler shit.
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  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Depends, do they swallow? It's important.
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  7. The Original Faceman

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    Same thing as many women. Drinking.
  8. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    No, of course not. But those are the only sort of arguments the stupid fucks are prepared to take on.
  9. markb

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    Is this Federal Farmer's cry for help?
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  10. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    Enough with the strawmen. Is there something wrong with a guy who wants little kids even if he keeps it to himself? You know what the answer is, but you're too chickenshit to say it, precisely because you know what it says about your entire argument.
  11. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    Why are you unable to answer the question? Thought police got your tongue???
  12. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Go fuck yourself, I answered you.

    If you think you know what I'm thinking, go test your psychic powers on the blackjack dealers of Vegas, and break the fucking bank.
    You internet psychics are legion, but not one of you is casino or Wall Street rich.
    Not a fucking one.
    Interesting, isn't it?
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  13. gturner

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    Why would psychic powers help in blackjack?
  14. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh bullshit. It's an apples to orange comparison, not a gotcha moment. You are trying to argue that a person who desires an exploitative relationship is equivalent to a person who does not. Fuck off with this shit. And you wonder why peoplke neg rep you.
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  15. El Chup

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    I would say that there is nothing wrong with that person in principle. I don't believe and have never believed that Paedos are unnatural, and I entirely agree with @Diacanu's sentiment that provided they don't act on their sexual attraction then there is nothing in principle wrong in them. I believe their sexual attraction is no different from you or I preferring, say, a different ethnicity or body types of women from one another, for instance. I mean, is it really any different from these people who have sexual attractions to things like cartoon characters or balloons? It is clearly naturally occurring and defining age is part biological but also part a social construct given the varied speeds at which humans mature. Is a 22 year old who is attracted to a 15 year old really that that more "abnormal" or different from a 50 year old attracted to an 18 year old? I'm not convinced they are is. It's just unfortunate for these people that the object of their sexual attraction happens to be someone who is innocent and vulnerable so if they act on that attraction that's when the wrongdoing and immorality occurs. Indeed, it's a fact that most paedophiles who undergo physiological treatment do not get past their attractions and desires, and that suggests to me that it in inherently is simply another form of sexual attraction, one that is neither a choice or something that can be switched off/cured.

    I think there is a significant misunderstanding of paedophilia because the inherent revulsion in us of paedos who act on their desires is such that the conversation is concentrated on that and not what causes it in the first place. But a paedo isn't a criminal until he acts on his urges and I'm not convinced that prior to doing so that person is legitimately mentally ill or makes a conscious choice to have such attraction.
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  16. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    I don't wonder why libtards negrep me. It's a badge of fucking honor.

    The agonizing truth (for you) is that there is a nominal difference between a pedophile and a homosexual. They both have similarly fucked up compasses that just happen to be pointing in different directions. The good news is that being gay is generally harmless. But that doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with gays -- it just means the problem isn't serious.

    But I do love to see all these idiots completely twist themselves into knots to avoid ever admitting that homosexuality is the slightest bit less normal than, well, actually being normal.
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  17. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Well you're going to have to explain what is wrong with homosexuality, then. You can't just declare it thus and leave it at that. And pro-tip: if you want a serious conversation, condescension and sneering are going to impress nobody.
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  18. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    Maybe someone should let the WHO know that Space Jew says they can drop all the ICD codes for pedophilia. Congratulations, pervs, you're perfectly normal.
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  19. cpurick

    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    No, I really don't have to. That's what's so cool about it: You already know exactly that homosexuality is a malfunctioning sex drive, because only a fucking idiot doesn't know what the purpose of a sex drive is. I just like to see the PC slaves working their asses off to pick up the turd by the clean end.

    You mean like when Dicky compared it to curing blue eyes, and Space Jew compared it to a cure for being black? Are those the condescension you're talking about, or would you call those sneers?
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  20. K.

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    Because your diction in this thread is deceptive.
  21. Steal Your Face

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  22. K.

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    A cure applies to illnesses. Homosexuality isn't an illness. Saying it can be cured implies that it is. Saying what isn't true deceives.
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  23. Steal Your Face

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    Nobody knows for sure where homosexuality comes from. It could be a mutation, it could be a mental illness, we just don't know.
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    Homosexuality was considered an illness or malady throughout most of history, even by clinical psychologists.

    Psychopaths make up about 1 percent of the male population, too. Should we also consider them normal?
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    cpurick Why don't they just call it "Leftforge"?

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    A reasonable argument. So if somebody invents a pill that turns gays straight, you don't think people are going to call that pill a cure, huh?

    But if they do create that pill, you can bet it's the one fucking medication that Obamacare will NEVER pay for.
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  26. K.

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    That's not what 'illness' means. If you're not sick, it isn't an illness, no matter the causes.
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  27. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Addressed in post #147.

    And if you genuinely think the difference between consenting relationships and exploitative ones is "nominal", then you're too fucked up to be trusted with cutlery.

    Muthafucka, you'd BETTER be trolling,.
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  28. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    If you can't see the difference between two consenting adults who happen to be the same gender deserving protection against bigotry and a pedophile who believes a three year old is capable of understanding or returning his affections, then you're being purposely obtuse or a middle schooler who thinks he's being clever.


    Actually, strike that. Middle schoolers today have grown up knowing Teh Ghey isn't a mental illness.

    Inn any event, stupid gotcha is stupid.
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  29. K.

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    No.

    No.

    No.

    They didn't exist "throughout most of history".

    Complete non sequitur.
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  30. K.

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    On the contrary, I very much expect people to continue to deceive themselves and others, just as is the case in this thread.