What is immoral about sex before marriage?

Best Answer: I fail to follow your reaoning and I see no evidence to support your claim that "god changed his laws." God does not change. It is man who changes.

The Bible, which contains God’s revealed moral will in His law and commandments, is His revelation to His people. As such, the Bible becomes our source of morality because the Bible is the very Word of God in written form (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21). If the Christian wants to know God’s will, he turns to the Bible. If the Christian wants to discern right from wrong, he turns to the Bible.

What happens if the Christian doesn’t turn to the Bible as his or her source for morality? There are many ways to answer this question, but the bottom line is we all tend to trust our conscience, whether implicitly or explicitly. The human conscience can be likened to an alarm system; it warns us when we transgress our moral standard. The catch is our conscience is only as good as the moral standard that informs it. If it’s not the Bible, then we inevitably inform our conscience by various other means.

The current reigning “competitor” to biblical morality in our society is social consensus. In other words, our morality is shaped and changed by the culture around us. It should be easy to see that if social consensus is our moral compass, then we have built our morality on a foundation of shifting sand. Social consensus is just that—a consensus. It’s a picture of the general social mores of the day. A generation or two ago, homosexuality, divorce and adultery were still not accepted, even considered sinful. Nowadays, both homosexuality and divorce are normal and adultery isn’t as stigmatized as it once was. Basically, what we have with social consensus is what happened to the Israelites a couple generations after conquering the Promised Land: “Everyone did what was right in his own eyes” (Judges 17:6). The people abandoned God, and within two generations they were doing what was evil in the sight of God.

So why should the Bible be our source for morality? Because without it, we are like ships adrift at sea. At the end of the Sermon on the Mount, our Lord said these words: “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built His house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock” (Matthew 7:24-25). The Word of God, the Bible, is the only rock upon which to build morality.

Prove it.

I for one do not get why anyone would like sex except when they can't avoid it. I do not like the word fags but those God hates fags people may be right.

Worth listening to more than internet non entities who are all going to hell.

Case closed.

Prove your Praxis score.

If that were true, your ass wouldn't be here to make that post.

Clearly, the God who was sitting around in a blank void for squillions of non-years in non-time changed into the one who got bored and made the universe.
A truly non-changing God would have been contented with the void forever.

Just as soon as you prove to Garamet that you've walked to the store in the rain.

I finally decided not to bother and conceded the point to Garamet.

Now prove you have a degree in Biblical studies.

Using foul language. Proving your argument is flawed and does not need to be considered.

If I remember during my prayer I will ask for you to be damned to hell. Although you are probably going anyway.

I too have decided not to bother. Only I concede nothing, as who the fuck are you to demand proof of me? You're a Goddamned Atheist who doesn't believe in any of the Great Pantheons, and are therefore unworthy of drinking my urine.

Besides... The only real proof I could offer is a facsimile of my diploma, which is unfortunately in my equivalent of the chicken coop, as it doesn't mean enough to me that I display it on the wall or anything. Even if I had it easily to hand, there are a number of reasons I'd not publish an image of it online.

In other words you are lying about a degree in Biblical studies.

No worries. I never believed you anyway. Because there are several comments you've made that no serious student of Biblical students would even come close to posting.

Bullshit. It not only doesn't prove that, it doesn't even hint at it.

Ah, such a great example of Christian forgiveness. Converse, if I happen to think of it, I'll pray that you achieve at least some level of enlightenment as I dance naked round the fire invoking the spirits of the cardinal watchtowers.

I don't know how often @Asyncritus lurks when he's too busy to post, but you and he might have a conversation offline where he could verify your credentials. It would present Dayton with an interesting dilemma as he tries to figure out a way to dismiss an accredited Biblical scholar and decades-long missionary as "not worthy of his time."

Damn. So much for Facebook stalking you :uamad:

Dude, you got NotDaytoned

Not at all. Again, I concede nothing, but see no reason to prove myself to a non-believer like yourself.

Perhaps no biblical student that still actually believed that crap, perhaps, but I can think of nothing I've ever said, that isn't pretty much par for the course to any biblical scholar who has come to the conclusion that it's all bullshit.

Indeed I did. It was sufficiently moronic that I assumed it to be the real thing. Boy, is my face red!

NotDayton FTW!

I will admit that you have a degree in Biblical studies if you agree that sexual relations outside of marriage are wrong according to the Bible.

Sounds like a fair trade.

I may consider that, but, as I said, the only real proof I have is somewhere in a huge storage locker I share with the ex-wife. I'm certainly not gonna excavate that mess to prove anything to someone as insignificant as Dayton Fucking Kitchens.

Yes, the Bible stupidly claims that sexual relations out of wedlock are wrong. There are exceptions. But by and large, it condemns such acts.

Which, of course, has little or no meaning regarding the actual morality, or lack thereof, of sex before/outside marriage in the real world.

For starters, he or she might abolish slavery.

Good game!

He or she might support democracy instead of theocratic monarchy.

Thank you.

Of course I still don't believe that you have a degree.

Life is not fair and what applies to you doesn't apply to me.

Not this time pal, but man, you've really got Dayton pegged. It's uncanny. Like "Beatlemania" back in the '80s: Not the real thing, but a remarkable simulation!!

Just be careful about letting Brit-ism through.

Keep up the good work.

Cut and paste much?

And not even crediting the original source. Just when you think @Dayton3 can't stoop any lower...

Are you planning to repaste that like Captain. X's Shinji meme that he ran into the ground?

^I'm not familar with that reference.

gul, why do you quote something I never said?