Whelp, that's it for Mittens

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by actormike, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Amaris

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    As Async and others (including myself) have said, it's not really going to make much of a difference. Our political system is so entrenched that one candidate could bring a child back from the dead, live on camera, while the other candidate could skewer puppies and call upon the name of the dark Lord, and the numbers would still be split just about even, with a few percentage points to make all of the difference.

    The perspectives are totally skewed.
    Suppose a Presidential candidate helps build a home for an underprivileged family. His supporters will say it shows he has heart and compassion. His detractors will say he's just trying to mug for the camera and look good. It doesn't matter his past record, it doesn't matter his POV, for one side he's automatically evil and for the other he's automatically good.

    The candidate is just a tabula rasa for reflecting the personal and political viewpoints of his constituents, both pro and con. Nothing he does, good or bad, will really matter all that much, or make any significant difference, to these people.

    It should have never got to this point.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Read Mark Twain, read some Roman satires, it's always been thus.
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  3. Aurora

    Aurora Vincerò!

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    Even from my perspective, the GOP has adopted more and more ultra-right-wing policies to appease those Tea Party crazies. So how in God's name could it appease to Obama and/or sane voters?! Or are you just full of shit and they're still stinking commies for you?
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  4. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I don't know. I think I'd vote for the guy who can bring babies back to life no matter the letter after his name. Anybody can skewer puppies.
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  5. Aurora

    Aurora Vincerò!

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    But what if one of those babies got to be a new hitler?! HITLER I TELLS YOU!
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  6. We Are Borg

    We Are Borg Republican Democrat

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    And if anyone should know, it's Aurora!

    She's Austrian.
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  7. Amaris

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    Then perhaps it's merely made worse by the 24/7 news cycle.

    You say that now, but throw in a slick ad campaign, buzz words, demonization of said person, and in no time you have nearly 50% of the population calling for him to stop trying to hate America.
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  8. We Are Borg

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    :yes:

    24/7 news is responsible for the downfall of humanity.

    Things are reported almost instantaneously, generally without facts or any kind of meaningful context or analysis.
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  9. Volpone

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    Well shit, if the New York Times says conservatives don't like Romney for this, then it must be true. :marathon:

    You know what? Fuck it. I'm voting for Romney. I like Johnson in principle, but I wish I'd never seen him speak. He is not "presidential." And if all the Usual Suspects are spending this much time and money, trying to convince me Romney is teh Ebil, then he probably deserves my vote.
  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You were voting for Romney, anyway. Your "thought process" in that post says it all.
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  11. Peach Wookiee

    Peach Wookiee Fresh Meat

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    This came too early... Mother Jones couldn't put it out in October.
  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  13. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    The whole video is out. It does not make Mittens look good.

    Of course, the cons are desperately trying to spin it and turn it back on Obama. But it's pretty pathetic.

    Really looking forward to seeing the polling in the next week to find out how damaging this is.
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    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/18/romneys-47-percent-line-is-a-common-gop

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  15. Captain X

    Captain X Responsible cookie control

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    She should totally run for governor of California! :soma:
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Fact-checking Romney's "47 percent" comment

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  18. RickDeckard

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    Someone who says something like this should have no credibility left.

    But as others have said, it (unfortunately) won't make much of a difference. Hopefully the small difference does contribute to keeping this nut out of the White House though.
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  19. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Tweeting this bit of breaking news #CNN #FoxNews #MSNBC
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  21. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Don't they have enough problems?
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    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    To be fair, there are a lot of conservative pundits who actually seem to be getting this one, e.g.:
    Mitt Romney is wordforge.
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  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    What cracks me up about the second video - the one where his solution to the Israel/Palestine problem is to "kick the can down the road and hope somehow something happens" - no, not that part, but the guy at the far right of the screen who just ignores him and keeps stuffing his face through the entire speech. Could've saved himself the price of the contribution and just ordered room service.
  24. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    What about undecided voters?
  25. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Hasn't every Romney "plan" boiled down to "I'll do something and something will happen?" He's put forth no concrete solutions for how he'll actually DO any of what he says he's going to do. Romney 2012: Elect me and hope for the best.

    As for the guy stuffing his face...let's just hope he didn't feel entitled to that food.
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  26. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    I think what you don't get is most of the Romney voter block not only agrees with those statements but would have taken them even further in the direction that most enrages liberals.

    In short: if anything, this will gain Romney voters. The people who will be pissed by these comments aren't his constituency to start with. :shrug:
  27. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Wow, you've just described the entire Obama presidency. Well done.
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  28. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Wow, actormike actually had a point for once and you missed it. Well done.
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  29. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    I'm sure many conservatives do agree with them.

    That doesn't mean they, or Mittens, are correct. Because he's wrong. The idea that 47% of the American population subsist entirely on the largesse of wealth stolen by the government is insane.

    If I'm a retiree and I see this video, all I hear Mitt Romney calling me a moocher for tapping into the income I've put into social security and Medicare.

    And we know how many retirees vote.

    I just don't see any way that Mittens' dismissal of half the country as meaningless, worthless parasites is going to gain him votes among undecided voters, and doesn't lose him at least a small amount of traction with the elderly.

    No matter what you and your buddies say to spin this, it's really, really bad for Mittens.
  30. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I'm still undecided. :bailey:

    Crybaby. :garamet:
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