WTF is the point to being a Christian??

Anything can be forgiven except blasphemy.

Actually, love can be shown by changes in certain hormones and brain activity. Give the scientists a decade or so, and they'll be able to tell you exactly which neurons are involved with love.

If you recall correctly? You mean you don't even know?

So you're now saying that only some humans have souls. Correct?

Love is an emotion. Emotions can be felt and are scientifically proven by virtue of the fact that we can measure chemical changes in the brain and physical changes in the body.

And?

If you ask.

I wasn't fully aware that you had committed anything directly against me for which you need to ask forgiveness for.

How about Ed, Chup, and garamet?

Do chemical changes occur before or after the feelings of love exist?

Religious experiences can likewise be measured in the brain. They can even be electrically induced.[/quote]

He's only 49% certain of that.

Of course. Though I can't recall anything specifically "wrong" that was done against me by El Chup or garamet in recent times that requires granting forgiveness. Granted it can hard to keep track.

The Holy Spirit is a flaming homo who works at a truck stop glory hole on weekends, and drinks peep show mop water on week days.

I don't understand what you're saying. How can religion be measured in the brain?

"I can't recall anything, despite banging on about it for years and continually refusing forgiveness until a few days ago."

Dayton, do you live in some sort of bizarre alternate universe where history is revised according to your desire?

I forgave you after gul explained that you continually bringing up the subject was in fact your way of asking me for forgiveness.

Do you want me to link to the page where I forgave you?

Time No. 527,433,625 that Dayton misses the point.

I finally forgave you.

Why are you whining about it now?

As the saying goes "If you don't stup picking at it, it won't stop bleeding".

Ahh, the final resting place of complete idiots. PROVE A NEGATIVE!

The same way love can. It's a field of study, with various theories about the limbic region and the left and right hemisphere's interfering with each other so that half the brain "perceives" the other half as some kind of intelligent presence, etc. Epileptics also often have intense religious experiences. There's all sorts of information out there, such as this bit about epilepsy and religious experience:

Literature surveys have revealed that between .4% and 3.1% of partial epilepsy patients had ictal religious experiences; higher frequencies are found in systematic questionnaires versus spontaneous patient reports. Religious premonitory symptoms or auras were reported by 3.9% of epilepsy patients. Among patients with ictal religious experiences, there is a predominance of patients with right TLE. Postictal and interictal religious experiences occur most often in TLE patients with bilateral seizure foci. Postictal religious experiences occurred in 1.3% of all epilepsy patients and 2.2% of TLE patients. Many of the epilepsy-related religious conversion experiences occurred postictally. Interictal religiosity is more controversial with less consensus among studies. Patients with postictal psychosis may also experience interictal hyper-religiosity, supporting a “pathological” increase in interictal religiosity in some patients.

Although psychologic and social factors such as stigma may contribute to religious experiences with epilepsy, a neurologic mechanism most likely plays a large role. The limbic system is also often suggested as the critical site of religious experience due to the association with temporal lobe epilepsy and the emotional nature of the experiences. Neocortical areas also may be involved, suggested by the presence of visual and auditory hallucinations, complex ideation during many religious experiences, and the large expanse of temporal neocortex. In contrast to the role of the temporal lobe in evoking religious experiences, alterations in frontal functions may contribute to increased religious interests as a personality trait. The two main forms of religious experience, the ongoing belief pattern and set of convictions (the religion of the everyday man) versus the ecstatic religious experience, may be predominantly localized to the frontal and temporal regions, respectively, of the right hemisphere.​

It's something the brain does, like love.

I'm not whining. The point that you are missing that @Diacanu put to you was that you had been complaining about the actions of others on the board on multiple occasions. You refused to offer forgiveness for a long time and then had to have it explained to you for you to give it. Diacanu's question essentially was, if God can forgive, why was it so hard for you to?

I think God forgives after you repent.

gturner is right. God doesn't offer anyone free and clear forgiveness with no requirement. You have to basically

1) Confess- admit what you did and acknowledge it was wrong.

2) Repent- express sincere remorse for what you did.

What you are describing is not evidence of the existence of God or a soul. It is evidence that epileptics are more likely to experience what they perceive as religious experiences due to the structure of their brains. If anything, it indicates the exact opposite of what you're claiming and I suggest that you do some research on the concept of religious experience in psychology. Still, wouldn't be the first time you offer up things you don't understand in order to promote a lie....

...also, if you're saying that religion is provable, then where is the soul? Dayton says only some people have them.

I did not say that. Everyone has a soul.

Right then, answer my original question. How do I know I have one? Why is it not apparent to me?

Lack of faith.

How would "faith" prove that a soul exists?

Why is it reliant on an emotionally driven belief?

I don't consider faith an emotion.

Neither do I, I've already amended it.

The question remains. Why knowing is the existence of a soul contingent on faith? What is the logical basis for that?

Not everything has a logical basis.

Logic is a means to an end. Not an end in and of itself.

So in other words you are completely incapable of explaining to me how faith causes one to discover their own soul.

Tell me, if I have faith that my most recent poop has a soul, isn't that just as good? How about the fork that I ate my dinner with. If I have faith that the fork has a soul then is that good enough? What's the difference?

Faith comes into play when the limits of logic are reached.

Sorry. I suppose your question is beyond my ability to answer.

Perhaps if you spoke with a professional on the subject of faith they could do a better job.